Cedar Wrights Faux Pas

Wax-on Wax-off

While climbing accomplishment may be offered as an "objective" measure, it is quite clear that such a measure is far from "objective." Lynne Hill's free climb on The Nose did not receive nearly the attention that it should have, it stands as an amazing climbing feat

Ask any feminist - men are disposable

less talk, more evidence... you got any?

Life's just a big Rorschach test...

Despite all the legitimate points on either end, the emotional arguments on display and the inevitable descent into madness...

We've already elected 2 female Prime Ministers. Despite being middle-earth, we are well ahead of the US of A.

I could be on a tangent here. But the point is, why are women so constantly belittled, with discussion often moving to what men supposedly do-better, when advocates for women 'push back'?

Largo:

The problem with Monahan's rant is that she doesn't (in my opinion) adopt the right approach for her ideas to find much traction, her conclusions don't necessarily follow her assumptions in the way she presents them, and while her tone is quite personal per the "offenders," it is entirely impersonal in regards to her own experience. That is, if she personalized her message by way of her own experience, her message would more likely strike home.

Dingus Milktoast:

This lady was not really offended by the writing of Cedar Wrights. She was a soldier on a mission. How she felt was not important at all to her.
She was told that such words were supposed to be offensive and she dutifully fought back.

Lol oh you don't know that Yury. Its complete assumption. Did your leaders tell you to write this?

Do you remember when female teachers were paid less than male teachers? And the reasons for defending/justifying such?

It hardly matters what I want in terms of a "test" of you hypothesis, Warbler, but as I said up thread, if you have a combined competition both men and women would decide what the competition was, how it would be executed and both would participate in the judging, on an equal basis.

I think I have been saying that perhaps Monahan's blog post (not on STForum) reflects her experience, and the experience of other women, and that to dismiss it because you don't like her "attitude" doesn't diminish those experiences.

I stopped taking them seriously when it was clear to me it didn't matter what I concluded from my effort, they didn't take me seriously

It is the fact that we live in a unnervingly stationary heteropatriarchy

It is important that in our everyday lives we strive to challenge imperial white supremacy

"Jokes like this come from a place of an American imperialist attitude where people assume that they can have an opinion on another culture’s practices."

Women are held to value judgments solely based on their sex appeal through the white, hetero, cis male gaze.

1964, when Justice Potter Stewart used that criteria, was 18 years before the first woman justice was appointed to the court, an appointment 61 years after the Nineteenth Amendment was ratified. What took so long?

The comfort of indoor climbing is conducive to female participation too.

The majority of the most legendary ascents in climbing, outside of sport, are remembered by the risk taken and the challenges to success.

Hi Susan, what do you think about Erin Monahan's article?

“I think that it was 90 percent mental and maybe 10 percent physical,” White said. “She probably didn’t feel right. I think a lot of fighters have had times where they don’t feel right, and then we’ve had guys who are outright sick. ... These situations arise all the time. I don’t know if I’ve ever had a situation like today, though, where she was physical capable of fighting.

Anyway, if its fun for you, go for it. zzz

Silverbacks chest thumping is frequently entertaining

Nunes withdrew from her second title defense on fight day after being cleared by doctors

She does not "owe" us to fight if she isn't well,

What my point is, is that fans feel she needs to be at blame when there is no clear blame. It isn't cut and dry.

Also, in comparing footage of let's say, Chris Sharma with Lynn Hlll, it seems as if a really strong guy, due to more brute strength, can do certain moves and waste some energy.

In the 2009 book Playing with the Boys: Why Separate is not Equal in Sports, two female authors argue that the only reason women appear to be athletically inferior to men is that society unfairly segregates them due to outmoded patriarchal beliefs. An exceedingly dumb 2013 article in VICE magazine says the idea that boys are better athletes than girls is “f*#king bullshit” and that the “games are rigged.” Naturally, there is no statistical evidence to buttress this non-argument, only the usual frothing about sexism and patriarchy and what impenitent as#@&%es men are.

it would be nice if you feminists would just revel in your sex's superiority

So what choices, specifically, do you not believe are available to a woman climber?

He was quoting Susan, and calling bs on her judgement that I think women are generally inferior. Which is, in fact, bullsh#t.

You said that in the post you deleted.

s. No one in Tennis has been as dominant for as long with as great a track record against the best competition offered,