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WBraun
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May 18, 2012 - 11:39am PT
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They need to make a hut up at the top of that mountain.
There will be some old bearded know it all dude sitting in there.
The mountain climbers will then go inside as they summit.
The dude will tell them they have not yet reached the real summit.
Everyone will go WTF man !!!!
Where is it !!! as they all slide back down into the hellish world below .....
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MikeL
climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
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May 18, 2012 - 11:44am PT
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Ha-ha-ha-ha.
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Knuckles
Trad climber
Everett, Wa
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May 18, 2012 - 12:18pm PT
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Apologies if someone already made this comment and I missed it but some might say that placing a bomber #3 Camalot and calling it a belay anchor is not morally defensible. Acceptable risk is relative.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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May 18, 2012 - 03:30pm PT
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On a serious note:
Do you think people climb Everest without thinking of the severity of it because they heard it's easier than a ton of other peaks, so in their head, they'll be perfectly fine, and all the deaths on the mountain resulted from "bad luck"?
Or because they want to be the second guy around the water cooler to climb it?
I'm not into mountaineering, I'm pretty sure I've never made it to the top of a 14,000 ft peak, why do people choose Everest?
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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May 18, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
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Annapurna is there in the winter, why not do that? :)
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 18, 2012 - 04:45pm PT
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The dude will tell them they have not yet reached the real summit.
Everyone will go WTF man !!!!
Where is it !!! as they all slide back down into the hellish world below .....
Except for those crafty few who, having realized that they've already gotten higher than they ever thought they were going to, will stay and eat a pickle with the bearded dude, awaiting their chance to tell new arrivals that they have not reached the real summit.
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wbw
Trad climber
'cross the great divide
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May 18, 2012 - 04:48pm PT
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Aw come on, that is silly. Guiding Everest is no more "not morally defensible" than guiding anywhere else. People wanna climb, guides and sherpas gotta eat.
My experience of guiding 5 seasons in the Tetons put me in some situations that I did not personally care for. When the afternoon thunderstorm is approaching, and you know how much your client paid for your services, the conflict of interest was obvious. Seemed weird to put all of that into a climbing situation. Especially when the folks in the office knew that truly telling potential clients what climbing the Grand was like would mostly just turn away business. Business that only lasts a couple of months each year.
Guiding Everest would be similar, except that there is a lot more at stake in regards to what the clients are paying, and the unforgiving demands of high altitude.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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May 19, 2012 - 03:04pm PT
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Rolwaling Excursions just put two Swedes and two Indonesians on the top
along with four Sherpas from my village. The leader was Chhiring Dorje, the
hero of the 2006 K2 disaster who is summmiting Everest for the 12th time.
His wife made him promise to never go to K2 again and stick with safer
guiding on Everest. All of the money spent at that mountaineering agency
goes to Rolwaling Sherpas. No middle men.
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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May 19, 2012 - 04:18pm PT
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if your a "guide"
or your a "pro"
or in the "industry"
or write "guidebooks"
you can not bitch about crowds or "climber-impact"
leave your crew behind
"let's ALL go to the meadows, it'll be so fun, of course you can bring your drums and
banjar"
God were cool!!!!
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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May 19, 2012 - 04:39pm PT
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Morals shmorals !!
My Friend Kurt just summited !
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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May 19, 2012 - 08:17pm PT
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A bit OT but am surprised it wasn't mentioned yet - the fast Swiss Ueli summited Everest solo without oxygen yesterday
edit - it wasn't a solo. Ueli Steck and his partner (21 year old) Tenzing used no additional O2
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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May 20, 2012 - 02:02am PT
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A 73 year old Japanese woman just summited yesterday as well.
She has now climbed it from both sides, the first time when she was 63.
Of course the first woman to summit Everest was Japanese also.
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MisterE
Social climber
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May 20, 2012 - 08:59am PT
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My friend Chad (who is trying to break the speed record on Everest) just posted this on his Facebook page:
Hello Friends!
Last night was a bad night on Everest. 6 people lost their lives trying to summit and return to the South Col. I was on a training run to Camp 3. The traffic was too heavy so I postponed my summit bid until the 26-27th. Send your thoughts and prayers out to the families of the deceast. Waiting for the call...
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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May 20, 2012 - 09:40am PT
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I hope beyond hope this is a erroneous post by your friend, Erik.
I can't find any information on this yet.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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May 20, 2012 - 09:50am PT
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How about when a whole film production flies into the mountains and dominates the place for 2 or 4 weeks?
I thought we were talking about Everest, not the Buttermilks.
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Mister_Roborto
Trad climber
Queensland
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May 20, 2012 - 09:56am PT
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im's just arrogent, predictable and clueless, big talk for a guy who's never summited a 8000 meter peak.
A lot has to do with Nepals GNP, and there is no reason someone can't pay to do something really cool; no need for arrogent media darling to judge.
That comes on the back of thirty years of guiding, not selling jackets made by kids in China.
JD. Really..
Hey Coz. Are your opinions coming from having guided, or ever having been guided up on Everest? That would be pretty cool.
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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May 20, 2012 - 10:07am PT
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How about when a whole film production flies into the mountains and dominates the place for 2 or 4 weeks?
My question regarding them would be:
"Did they bring Poop Tubes?"
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2012 - 10:40am PT
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Coz, your comments are nearly always among the least informed seen on this forum. You definetly have a bone to pick with me even though you don't know me. I think we met very briefly once in Eldo. You come off as bitter and petty and vindictive. I have held off from saying these things but you consistently attack me and not my arguments.
Intelligent discourse is appreciated, ad hominen arguments are not.
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Stewart Johnson
climber
lake forest
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May 20, 2012 - 10:49am PT
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donini has never even seen everest .
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