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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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God given negative rights?
+1 for just making dumb sh#t up and pretending it means something.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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other than rant on a climbers forum?
Don't minimize the power of a good rant on an internationally-known "climbers'" forum.
Even dog-piled by the libtards that mostly own the taco stand, I'm happy to point out that we have GOOD alternatives to the present state of affairs. It is easy to legally limit federal power, even now. And in one election cycle the present surveillance-state, IRS gestapo threat, and income taxes as we have known them for many decades could be sweepingly overturned. Oh, and the "federal reserve" (that is neither) could have its stranglehold on our economy wrested back from them and returned to we the people. This is my hope, and I'll hold onto it until my dying day.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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+1 for just making dumb sh#t up and pretending it means something.
-100 for being so blindingly ignorant that you think I'm making it up.
Sheesh
Well, have fun guys, I've got things to do, some of which will be converted directly into income tax dollars for you to burn on your libtariness.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Sorry Madbolter-
We're paying taxes for American exceptionalism, even if you live in a cave.
Part of the package is world domination, security, infrastructure, emergency support, rescue, education, health, welfare and so on.
Ya'llkeda apparently has a real problem with that whole fee/service concept, so perhaps we can draft an American Citizen, Opt-out clause with an unconditional waiver form.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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The militias are going to people showing videos of President Obama and Hillary Clinton talking trash in order to recruit more radical militants.
Maybe it's Clinton and Obama who need to check themselves, and quit throwing fuel on the fire.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Really, it's pathetic.
I miss Cragman and his rhetoric of pathetic, but thanks for filling in to let us know where we stand. Maybe with enough words and enough surety we can convince ourselves that (other) humans are pathetic too :-)
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Easy solution for the failed philosphy prof:
Go Galt, young man, go Galt!
I hear tell that Thiel guy, the dbag libertarian paypal dude was going to setup a floating barge-city in international waters for all you Ubermensch Glibertarian types to get yer Galt on.
What's the holdup? Why aren't you already out there with the "Seasteading" crew? BTW, good luck with the Somali pirates. I don't think they really give a sh#t about your "god given negative rights" or other sophist babble, and last I checked the Galt's Gulch Goobers didn't have any .50's mounted on their barge-c#m-city. Easy pickins for Sammy Somali.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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There is a point at which the judicial and political system no longer functions "for the people".
There is a tipping point somewhere and I consider it the duty of all citizens to work against and change the status quo.
Whether this is that time isn't for me to say, each person has their own breaking point. Some are past theirs, others seem to have an endless appetite for .gov intrusion.
But I am of the opinion that the government must be resisted lest it will consume all liberty and that is not acceptable to me.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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1) I am purchasing a benefit to MYSELF with them. I agree to pay for police, fire-departments, schools, etc., as I enjoy a DIRECT benefit being part of the collective.
Cool!
Gimme back all that money for F-22's, and Colorado dams, and the California water system, oh, I don't use those San Fransisco bridges...lets see.... That bridge to nowhere, the damn tunnel in Boston harbor, congess' plush dining hall, their health plan, I get nothing out of Air Force 1. Ain't no drone ever done me no good, the tanks they give Police forces seem silly. I want my own $600 hammer I paid for, ( must be really neat), I ain't never going to the godforsaken state of Alaska, which came out of US taxes. Let the damn dams on the Snake river rot away.
It's short notice, but I have a whole raft of crap I don't get direct benefit from, including the Hammond's irrigation the gummint paid for. The whole damn lake there is with my money. At least I bet I paid as much as they did.Come to think of it, the Louisiana purchase bought the land, too. All it's paying back is annoyance at this point.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Lively thread. Who is madbolter1? Does he live in New Hampshire? Does New Hampshire want to secede? Because all my friends and family would be awfully surprised about that?
Who is madbolter1? Does he hear voices, take meds, and so on? Can somebody go check on him? He sounds a bit unhinged, with a very loose grasp of how humans and civilizations organize and succeed.
His hate on the Feds fetish is especially weird. How does he think polio got cured? The Interstate highway system built? Does he know just exactly what the Federal Government's role in the creation of the Internet was? When he flushes the toilet, where the f*#k does he think the sh#t goes? Or does he use a two-holer on some 40 acre compound in North East Idaho?
Good luck, boys.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Lorenzo - you forget Big Bertha in Seattle. (that might not make any sense as I spent the afternoon and evening getting drunk and telling lies - truths, really - with Tarbuster)
Edit: and watching football with him
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Don't minimize the power of a good rant on an internationally-known "climbers'" forum.
That got a really high quality snort out of me.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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What if it turns out that the wildlife ends up being no worse off with these militia guys occupying the headquarters than it was when The Feds ran the place? Maybe then we'd want to re-think the whole idea of government wildlife management.
I think Escopeta, which means shotgun in Spanish, answers that question pretty clearly
Actually, the Dusky Geese have a more bitter taste that my wife finds pleasing. The hard part is disabling the radio collars so we lay off of them now.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Lorenzo - you forget Big Bertha in Seattle.
Hell, I want back for nearly all of Seattle. Especially tax breaks for anything to do with the Sounders.
I'll chip in for lake Union. A friend has a houseboat there I stay at when I go there.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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If I were to guess, “the authorities” will avoid any sort of confrontation with the small group protesting at the site. No one is apparently in danger as-is; so, doing nothing is probably the safest thing for everybody right now. I hope the occupied site gets sealed off so other areas of the refuge are accessible for Americans to use and enjoy as a refuge.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Easy solution for the failed philosphy prof
That one I'll come back on to respond to.
You've said it twice. Now sustain it.
"Failed"? In what sense? Explain. Oh, and spell correctly, if you can, in your attempted response.
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MikeMc
Social climber
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Man this post blew up. Looks like a couple of people found the Geritol.
So much entertain
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Can you keep it on the off topic please?
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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That one I'll come back on to respond to.
Wall of text that nobody will read coming in 5...4...3...2...
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