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tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jan 6, 2014 - 01:31pm PT
Agree with you 100% DMT except if someone really needs the food for their family whatever it takes to fill the freezer...
Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Jan 6, 2014 - 01:44pm PT
Bear hunters are not known for their brilliance.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44648280/

http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/article_14bea8e8-b5d3-11de-8ca2-001cc4c002e0.html

In both of these cases the hunters failed to properly identify the tracks they were following. A little bit of knowledge would have prevented these two dead grizzlies, an injured hunter, and a dead hunter.




We have some strange rules in this country. If my dog jumps the fence and is seen chasing deer a person can legally shoot my dog for harassing wildlife. Yet that same person can legally take his dogs into woods to harass and kill our wildlife.

Werner is right- Americans are stupid.
Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Jan 6, 2014 - 01:50pm PT
Quote While i do respect the stalking, one can stalk with a gun as well.


You can also stalk with a camera and knot hurt anything.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 6, 2014 - 01:52pm PT
No, how about crawling on your belly for 300 meters to crest a knoll and hit a target that's not alive? Maybe you eat everything you kill Ron, but many don't, and that's wrong.

And culling the herd, flock, or whatever? What happened before humans were armed? Yes, some animals were killed, but they didn't destroy or decimate our ecosystem obviously.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 6, 2014 - 01:58pm PT
Merely an assumption on my part, as I stated upthread.

This is regarding the killing of bears, as per the OP.

Read what I wrote first please. :)
A5scott

Trad climber
Chicago
Jan 6, 2014 - 02:13pm PT
more rear end pics please DMT… :)

scott
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 6, 2014 - 02:15pm PT
I feel like DMT and I are on the same page here.

Cheers, dude. Hope your back is returning to normal.
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Jan 6, 2014 - 02:30pm PT
Anyone ever do some snipe hunting? Do they use dogs for that?
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Jan 6, 2014 - 02:33pm PT
My mom was a secretary at Safari Club International. None of us hunt shite, it was just a decent job for her. I used to go to the conventions as a side job sort of thing in college, they are huge expos of everything related to hunting. I helped with the auctions--they would auction like $100,000 shotguns, wildlife art and extravagant safaris. Me and another guy were in charge of organizing the live auctions and getting all the crap to the various venues and then taking it out on stage during the auction. Guns, huge taxidermy pieces, art, etc. I remember cruising around Las Vegas in the back of a U-Haul with a stuffed rhino... Crazy! I saw G. Bush senior speak a couple of times and Stormin' Norman as well, it's a high rolling crowd.

Anyway, at one of the conventions the President of Botswana spoke and said hunting basically saved the animals in his country because it gave what are viewed as dangerous interlopers an economic value they otherwise don't have. Now the guy obviously knew his audience but that's what he said.



ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Jan 6, 2014 - 03:05pm PT
Here is an interesting article on hunting.

"So here are some of the most unsupportable claims made by hunters. I’ll start with one of the most obvious claims – that hunters help maintain an ecosystem...

http://heatherclemenceau.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/hunting-for-fallacies-why-hunting-is-bad-for-the-environment/ "
ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Jan 6, 2014 - 03:22pm PT
Did you read it, Ron? I think that Heather did a good job discussing many of the common talking points that hunters use to justify their "sport."

My guess is that you didn't read it...
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jan 6, 2014 - 03:38pm PT
I don't see why it matters so much to you Dingus what others are doing. Hunting with dogs or without. Same same so what? Fill out a "my butt is butt hurt" form Dingus and find someone who cares what you think about hunters.

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jan 6, 2014 - 03:39pm PT

ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Jan 6, 2014 - 04:07pm PT
Here is an interesting article re wild sheep reintroduction:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/07/science/earth/a-symbol-of-the-range-returns-home.html?pagewanted=1&hp

It says these efforts are mostly funded by hunter interest groups. I don't really have a dog in this fight cause I don't, and probably never will, hunt. But hunting is probably the least of the threats to animal populations (as opposed to habitat loss and disease from livestock) and has led to lots of land preservation and program funding.

PSP also PP

Trad climber
Berkeley
Jan 6, 2014 - 04:14pm PT
It's like "kill em all!"



The natives hunted the buffalo for 13,000 yrs and then our relatives came and killed them off for "sport" in short order . I quess that is why they have to have game wardens. Now you can only have a little bit of fun and only kill a few!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 6, 2014 - 04:33pm PT
I need 2 forms...One for each cheek...
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 6, 2014 - 04:48pm PT
Ron...that might be because every other Orange countian has relocated to Carson/Minden and all points in between...nice cheeks ding-us...rj
g-tech

Trad climber
Oakland!
Jan 6, 2014 - 05:04pm PT
So many awesome comments! This site really needs a like button...
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 6, 2014 - 05:06pm PT
Ron....Speculating as usual but i'm guessing the local chamber of commerce assert undue influence on law enforecement to take it easy on the tourons and slap their hansy's...
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Jan 6, 2014 - 05:12pm PT
fukcing poachers give honest hunters who hunt for food a bad name
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