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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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You wrote: Right. And liberals are simply the bastions of freedom. Lol
I pointed out that in many ways, they are.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Cliven Bundy's address......Such fun Notice he used a P.O. Box (though I do suppose if you live way the f- out in the middle of nowhere, the mail carrier isn't going to huff it out all the way to your front door).
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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"Rules are made for people who need rules."
It's been fairly well shown that when people don't have guidelines for behavior, they trash places to the point of ruin. While it is obviously true that not ALL people will behave this way, one would have to be blind not to be able to see that it is the case.
"You" may act very respectfully, responsibly and conservatively on public lands, but "you" are not the average visitor, and the average visitor is not the minority of visitors who act very poorly.
The average visitor will leave trash in a pile when they see others have done so, and there is no formal trash receptacle(carry in/out). The average visitor will trundle rocks, pick protected wildflowers and carve their names in wooden rails, because they just don't see why it is not appropriate.
The minority of poorly acting visitors will chop trees to make for a better composition in their nature photograph, will make campfires in dry conditions and allow them to go become out of control, will huck bags of trash off the cliffside after a picnic, will use open lands to dispose of their large item trash because they don't want to pay at a landfill. And on and on.
I understand people don't want armed rangers acting like Barney Fife deputies when they are out in the wilderness, or enjoying an evening around a fire at a campground site. But it takes very little imagination to know what such places would be like if there were no possible repercussions for acting badly. And it is that badly acting behavior that makes it that people innocent of such things(or maybe usually innocent, but not completely and always innocent) are managed by government agencies.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Just drop it then Ron.
Who is Ron?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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I pointed out that in many ways, they are.
It was a good guess apparently.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Dude, I bet you get punted from this forum within a month. You sound just like the others...Fatty, The Chief, all of them.
They all posted extremely rude one or two sentence posts. They never posted on the trip reports or climbing threads. You are just another guy waiting to get axed until you put some substance up.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Who is Ron
Pfft.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Dude, I bet you get punted from this forum within a month. You sound just like the others.
Advocates of freedom aren't welcome here? Who is Ron? Is this another situation where Craig fry will have to save me from the likes of the suppertopo liberal elite?
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WBraun
climber
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Escopeta
Don't bother listening to these morons and their stoopid threats.
This place, this forum, is the house of stoopid .....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Werner, you've been milking the federal tit most of your life. They've fed your face and allowed you to live in Yosemite longer than any human since the oldest Indians, pre-white man.
What makes you so anti-government?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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I'm beginning to think that actually self-punting for a few months might be a good idea periodically.
You have to weigh the opportunity costs of hanging out on this, or any other, internet forum too much.
-Shania's Dad
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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I'm beginning to think that actually self-punting for a few months might be a good idea periodically.
I haven't been here long but it seems like posting that you're leaving supertopo is like the co-dependent adult version of running away from home.
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WBraun
climber
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survival
Quit your stupid projections.
I don't milk anyone.
Plus I'm not anti govt. at all.
You people are such morons projecting so much bullsh!t on this forum.
Unbelievable
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Bryan, I get why people think you are Ron...
First , you just joined supertopo and you already have over three hundred posts...it's early in the day and you have posted 20 times.. your reading comprehension, ......you tend to spin some folks conversations in order to cause/ create drama, very much like Ron & Leb....your supertopo handle translates to shotgun, and your mail is disabled ..... Just a couple of reasons why some people think you are Ron.
BTW, I know my political views are different than Kris Solem.....but
when he joins in on a conversation, he listens and speaks his mind without trolling. I totally respect his views even though we may think differently.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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I did not see duck milking a chicken wing.
I like Anarchism in the ol' drunk Ed Abbey way of looking at it. Something.
PeopleRStupid is a North Fork Rancheria ish Enterprise. Maybe the duck is right and the goose is loose.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Nita,
It's wonderful that you think so highly of KSolem, as do I. Always have, always will. Regardless of what we happen to agree or disagree on.
But alas, I'm not him. And i post a lot in the morning since I'm an early bird. Especially today since I had to catch a flight to LA. Which, as you might imagine, puts me in a patriculalry Pro-freedom state of mind.
Since I'm unaware of the "Ron" and "Leb" history, I don't know what significance my user name holds. If you knew me better, you'd understand why it's quite suitable for me.
While I would love to connect with others from back in the day, I don't allow emails because I have zero interest in receiving hate mail via my inbox. So like many things in life I have to make a choice.
I do, however, find it interesting that you would opine on the "quality" of my posts in light of the numerous other 'contributors' that set the bar. And the fact that I have been so warmly received into the welcoming bosom of free thought and objectivity that is supertopo
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Escopeta posted And all this time I thought the beauty of America was that we were free to live our lives how we see fit even if it meant we were responsible for our own sense of security. How silly of me.
Great point, Escopeta. Everyone should be reminded of how President Washington in his inaugural address stated, "Nice job, everybody. You're on your own now. Good luck with everything!"
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Can't we all agree to disagree? (Once it hits 2000 posts)
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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We need to get back to Bonanzachat
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