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John M
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:32pm PT
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Isn't it weird to anybody that this has been going on for 20 years, but just last year Harry Reid broke ground on a Solar Farm on that land and then a month before the confrontation, the Senate approved one of Harry Reid's former staffers as head of the BLM?
LOL.. now you have to be trolling.
prove it Blue.. what solar farm?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:33pm PT
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ok,
I see that the BLM did kill a few, not many, of the cows that were diseased, infected, good
but what property of Bundy's did the Fed "destroy"?
not the land they were grazing on, because that is owned by the Fed government
what property got destroyed of Bundy's?
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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:39pm PT
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Jim Brennan:
LOL Fluffy,
You presume to know when a laugh isn't on you...
Damn you're fragile!
Anyway I've never paid too much attention to you but I don't remember you saying anything funny so if you're trying for jokes you might want to start there.
Namaste bitch!
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:41pm PT
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Bluering, ring, ring?
Per your post?
EDIT:
How can you expect us to believe it is anything but right-wing hate propaganda.
Pat Dollard didn't shoot the video, just linked it. Just throwing more info out there that the MSM fails to do.
The Pat Dollard/The War Starts Here web-site is very interesting.
Is this Site just one site that you happened to Google Clive Bundy up on, or are you fond of his right-wing, anti-gay, racist, retoric?
http://patdollard.com/
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:43pm PT
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Did you race-baiters watch the unedited video????
Blue, you are not paying attention. There's no serious debate on either side of the aisle as to whether Bundy is a racist. He has no legitimate defenders. Maintaining your position is not doing you any good.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:45pm PT
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Is this Site just one site that you happened to Google Clive Bundy up on, or are you fond of his right-wing, anti-gay, racist, retoric?
I'm actually a contributor there. No Google required.
Ask yourself who googled and edited the original video. No condemnation for them?
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:49pm PT
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I watched the “unedited” Bundy speech that Bluey linked. I understand what he says. But, he is a racist and a bigot. He doesn’t know this because that is who he is. He’s telling us what he believes and is truthful with his words. He has good intentions, but he is a racist and a bigot. At this point in this crumbling situation, I feel sorry for Bundy.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:58pm PT
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what solar farm was started, I must have missed that too?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:02am PT
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Bluering, Bluering, Bluering
Dear lad, per your mention about you contributing to the far right-wing,racist, anti-gay PatDollard/The War Starts Here Thread:
Apr 24, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
Is this Site just one site that you happened to Google Clive Bundy up on, or are you fond of his right-wing, anti-gay, racist, retoric?
I'm actually a contributor there.
I am so sorry that you have condemned yourself to thinking that America is a bad place, and that your glass is nearly empty and bitter.
America may have some problems, but it is still a great country to live in, and my glass is mostly full and tastes good.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:05am PT
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Blue,
I watched the video. Do you support Bundy's perspective on race or not?
Do you think that it is ok to support armed resistance against a case duly tried in the courts of the US and lost? Any cow damage occurred long after due process, so sue the Government over that.
Just trying to understand the reasoning here
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:11am PT
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Crag,, you had better LOOK UP grandfathered WATER RIGHTS and what they mean to grazing rights.
Ron, why don't you explain to us grandfathered water rights, and their connections to grazing rights? And while you're at it, explain to us exactly what rights and interests Bundy held in connection with the land in question and how he obtained those interests?
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John M
climber
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:12am PT
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That is your proof? Oh mercy Blue.. that whole thing has been debunked. There is not proof in it. It is an opinion piece, nothing more.
Besides which, this whole thing started more then 20 years ago, long before solar even became viable in such a manner..
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:12am PT
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Blue,
I watched the video. Do you support Bundy's perspective on race or not?
Do you think that it is ok to support armed resistance against a case duly tried in the courts of the US and lost? Any cow damage occurred long after due process, so sue the Government over that.
Just trying to understand the reasoning here
I agree that Bundy is in non-compliance with the law, but there's more to it than that...hold on, I'm watching hockey....
EDIT: John M, google it, for f*#k's sake!!!! I gave you a link. Look up others, there are many.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:14am PT
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"They never learned how to pick cotton"
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John M
climber
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:22am PT
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: John M, google it, for f*#k's sake!!!! I gave you a link. Look up others, there are many.
no there are NOT..
all of them come from the same source, which is debunked. This started more then 20 years ago. Long before solar was even viable.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/nevada.asp
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John M
climber
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:26am PT
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He is implying that all blacks are this way and ignoring the many who are successful. He is also ignoring all the people of other colors who are poor and living on government assistance. His attitude is racist.
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:29am PT
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Keep the video running, the microphones, too. Keep Clive in the spotlight. Post up, Ron, blue. Best thing that can happen. Shine a light on you so we can all see and hear you.
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