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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Estupido writes
While maybe not the best example, one that many of us might relate to is in the case of forest fires. The modern approach to keeping people from burning down a forest for example is to weave a web of laws designed to orchestrate the outcome of not burning down the forest. Don't do this, don't do that. Aka: fireworks are outlawed, no campfires, you are required to have spark arresters, steel jacketed bullets are outlawed, climbing gear must be dipped in anti-static coating and so and so forth. The end game, which we are actually starting to see in some cases of society is that virtually everything gets outlawed in an effort to achieve some specific outcome.
How am I wrong again?
And then he writes:
If you have subcontracted your personal protection out to the government, you are inherently not free.
I'm free to not have to enforce laws myself. Estupido cannot help but make stupid proclamations.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Craig,
If you will remember from an earlier post, I stated quite matter of factly that where there is no law, there is no freedom.
So no, since there is no law or functioning legal or court system (presumably as I haven't visited Somalia) that is not freedom, that is anarchy.
Which I am not advocating for despite your repeated attempts to imply just that. Is that because you can't formulate a logical response?
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Estupidisms
Only that it's more free. As I said before, the size of your cage doesn't dictate the amount of freedom
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franky
Trad climber
Black Hills, SD
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Of course Gary. Admiralty court obviously holds jurisdiction in all areas where flags have gold fringe. You need to know your rights if you are going to take up arms to defend them!
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Is there a 'free-er' person than an American male??
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Estupidisms
Only that it's more free. As I said before, the size of your cage doesn't dictate the amount of freedom
Ahhh yes... the name-calling begins!
Escopeta is making a lot of sense.
A lot of what he(or she?) argues for I agree with, however not in the context of this odd group of people with the bird-sanctuary "takeover" thing.... I think that detracts from his/her observations.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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A few years old but a very spot on and funny video. (Please note that "funny" is simply my personal, biased, unfounded opinions so no need to get your shorts all in a bind).
"Libertarian magic dust!"
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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FLIP-FLOP said: No coincidence that the abrasive escopeta is rich. The typical a-hole factor in american wealth.
I forgot about this one. Are you not rich?
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Heisenberg
Trad climber
RV, middle of Nowehere
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^^ Brook is referring to himself as a A-hole and abrasive.
He WAS rich once.....
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Banquo! That freedom in Somalia video is some funny schist!
Thanks!
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Escopeta: such a waste of an apparently intelligent human brain.
You still conveniently ignore the (and this all depends on how you crunch the numbers) 1 - 29 TRILLION DOLLARS you and your 1%er clones have stolen from the other 99% of U.S. taxpayers.
But let's put that aside, since I have no doubt you will, who do you expect to show up if your house is on fire, or the U.S. goes to war?
It sure the hell isn't going to be you or the clique of entitlement junkies that you belong to.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Stewart,
If you are so butt hurt by the rich getting richer, why are you enabling it?
So many of the things that you advocate for that are intended to protect the supposed less fortunate, have proven to have the exact opposite effect.
Whether its economically, socially, or legally, all of the polices you espouse to lift up the underprivileged are ultimately funneled to the rich because you can't legislate equality.
The more power you give to the government equates to the more power you give to the rich. Because they are the one's that can control, or buy, the necessary policies to ensure their survival. That will ALWAYS be the case. Do you truly believe that, say, the Democrats are committed to lifting up people? How deluded do you have to be to believe that?
Freedom is the great equalizer, not government or wealth re-distribution plans. Why double-down on dumb?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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I'm thinkin' Elfont
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Norton
Social climber
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I'm thinkin' Elfont
yeah, for a brief time I kind of thought it was Jeff too
but this one has a higher intellect but combined with a similar naive certainty/arrogance
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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I think he is just another climber that has very strong opinions
like the madbolter
Of course he thinks all his opinions and solutions to the problems are completely valid, but the confusing babble never provides an answer to how it would work in the real world
Most of us disagree with him
So he should keep trying
Maybe Esco and Largo will someday find a way to educate us about something that no one can describe
and he keeps the insults to a minimum.....
which is nice
and I will eat a crow if it turns out he/she has duped us all
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Heisenberg, I can't wait for your two minutes of fame.
Estupido, your version of freedom is called "the rule of force." Nothing more.
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Heisenberg
Trad climber
RV, middle of Nowehere
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Feb 5, 2016 - 05:08pm PT
Heisenberg, I can't wait for your two minutes of fame.
whats my 2 minutes of fame?
You got yours as a pole smoker at the BOTTOM of the list Brook.!!
But your more like a 2 seconds of fame kinda dude aint ya?
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Keep talking pussy.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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I'm gay so what? And I can feed you your teeth.
Heisenberg
Trad climber
RV, middle of Nowehere
Jan 26, 2016 - 06:22pm PT
actually maybe your kid should just end up paralyzed. after some drunk driver plows into him in a school crossing.
I don't jump. Your just a sh#t clown.
Maybe he could be kidnapped. They would be better parents than you would.
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