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nature
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Boulder, CO
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Apr 25, 2014 - 06:00pm PT
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if only bundy had paid his grazing fees
but why would he pay his grazing fees to a government that he does not acknowledge existing?
hmmm.... wait... does that mean that 20 years ago he did acknowledge the United States Government?
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 25, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
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America is the most violent country period on the planet killing everything in its path
You might look into a little place called "Honduras".
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Apr 25, 2014 - 06:03pm PT
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"America is the most violent country period on the planet killing everything in its path."
Total BS statement! Many countries and civilizations in the past have been just as destructive to people and local environments. I can give you a list if you would like.......
"Violence begets more violence."
Agree!
"Stupid all round people ....."
At least the half that don't believe in evolution and think a god of some sort created everything are........
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Apr 25, 2014 - 06:04pm PT
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or a little farther north like Mexico...
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Apr 25, 2014 - 06:18pm PT
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Werners statement to me also includes killing of animals. highest per capita of veggie/vegan in the US vs. Mexico. carne carne carne...
not to mention the lovely way bullfight cows are slaughtered...
that aside... you can't call werner hypocritical in that statement. he walks the talk.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Apr 25, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
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Hell yeah, more guns and less government and we will all be safe
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Apr 25, 2014 - 06:23pm PT
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The only redeeming quality to this and the other gun thread is that they seem to be keeping Ron A. off of other threads.... :-)
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Apr 25, 2014 - 07:21pm PT
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Chuckcar - thanks for that link. Steven just crushed the whole thing even harder then Jon has been all week.
"you can't pay a country that doesn't exist. Especially with the money that it issued."
"man, Hannity ate up that story so hard Bundy should have charged him grazing fees."
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Apr 25, 2014 - 07:27pm PT
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http://twitter.com/vplus/status/459503240787161088
Bundy went from "I was taken out of context" to "I'm just asking questions" to "this is what I truly believe" in a matter of hours. Also, running to Alex "American citizenship is literal slavery" Jones for your first stop "negroes might have been better off as slaves" defense say a few things about your worldview.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Apr 25, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
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Already beat on this page, son!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Apr 25, 2014 - 07:46pm PT
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I don't think I'm wrong, I think I'm right.
My teacher offers the thought that if you think someone elses opinion is better than yours you should have that one instead.
Problem is the Bundy's of this world and his followers do not go through the work of questioning their own view point. At least in this country they appear to be happy tuning into faux news and being told what to think.
at the end of all of this it will be sad for Mr. Bundy. he will lose on every level. The gov't will kick him off the land. He'll probably never pay the million dollars he owes us. Those that now (or did) hold him in regard as a hero will distance themselves. He won't understand. He's not capable.
He seems like a nice man. But he clearly feels the negro is below whitey.
Oh but hey... that leads me to a climbing story. See... years ago I was in Tacoma visiting my dad and I went to a yoga class in South Seattle - drove my step moms oldsmobile 98 cadillac. classic old gas guzzling boat. anywho.... after class I can't get the thing to start and it's getting dark and i'm by a park where some of those folk that mr bundy knows a lot about are starting to gather.
They don't look like they knew much about pickin' cotton... ahhh.. but I digress. So one of the brothers comes up to me asking what's up with my car. Older man, good heart. first thing out of his mouth after trying to start it was "oh man, someone tried to jack yo car!". I begged to differ but it didn't matter.
funny thing is there was almost a case of really bad wine in the trunk. dude asks if i have beer. i say no, but i have wine. I give him a bottle. then he asks for two bucks for smokes. i oblige.
so... lock smith gets called (key wouldn't turn). "on our way"
and it's getting darker.
eventually a fight breaks out between the older gentleman and a younger brother. apparently they thought I was moving in on their drug turf and were not happy about it.
The conversation between the two starts off, "What the f*#k... what's up with whitey?".
next thing you know they are throwing beer cans at each other and I sort of slink away to the store on the corner for a bottle of water and to wait.
well.. apparently things settled down and the crowd realized my car really was not starting, a locksmith was coming and I wasn't trying to sell $70 3 gram bags in the dark in south seattle all by my lonesome.
right before the lock smith shows up the younger guy walks down to the store and walks up to me and apologizes for assuming. I say it's cool and he walks away. yeah... one of those moments you sort of don't expect until after... when you realize... people are just people.
OK.... what's this got to do with climbing you might be asking yourself by now?
few weeks later I'm climbing in Winslow Wall work on new routes and with my latest I decided "Yoga something" was gonna be the route name. The Doctor quickly points out I should call it "What's Up With Whitey?".
done: What's up with Whitey 11c about 10 bolts.
Edit: i do feel sorry for the older guy. He woke up with a wicked hangover cuz that wine was baaaad.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 25, 2014 - 07:53pm PT
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^^^ Phunny
What's that old Steve Miller song that refrains something like Cow Cow KKKalculater?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 25, 2014 - 08:00pm PT
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^^^ Well then I guess all is forgiven eh?
Asking for forgiveness? Why not pay your fees and tell your mob of anarchist troglodytes to unload and get a life. Then we can talk about forgiveness.
Now Hannity and Chaz can go back to ball cupping and grazing.
Cliven is an all AmeriKKKlan Patri-idiot.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Apr 25, 2014 - 08:11pm PT
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My My! What a day for this thread.
Here's a repost of a Las Vegas Review Journal photo of some of Bundy's cows. Some folks didn't like looking at skinny unhappy cows in a rapidly vanishing mudhole, since it didn't equate with their noble Rancher concept of Bundy.
One small group's conservative hero turns out to be most everyone else's lying, tax-cheating, people-manipulating, redneck, racist.
Cliven Bundy's cows roam the Gold Butte area. Federal authorities will restrict access to almost 600,000 acres of public land for the next seven weeks as they prepare to round up what they call “trespass cattle” in the desert 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. (F. Andrew Taylor/Las Vegas Review-Journal) http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/bundy-blm/emotions-run-high-blm-closes-600000-acres-cattle-roundup
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 25, 2014 - 08:12pm PT
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In almost all cases people apologize and ask for forgiveness only because of selfish best interests, NOT because they have changed their opinions or are really sorry....except for themselves.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Apr 25, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
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Yes he is "sorry".
A sorry sack of lying cheating racist excrement.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Apr 25, 2014 - 08:26pm PT
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He's sorry because someone smarter than him told him he should be.
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