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bluering
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Santa Clara, Ca.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 05:15pm PT
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Werner and Philo, I have no desire to go back to Israel, been there once. From what I saw most of Egypt, Israel, and Turkey are shitholes. I'm good here.
Since when do I have to immerse my hand in sh#t to comment on the offensivness of it?
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 05:29pm PT
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So Skipt you still are incapable of answering the simplest of questions. If it is all such a sh#t hole why do you care so much?
Since when do I have to immerse my hand in sh#t to comment on the offensivness of it?
Dude you are in much more than wrist deep. How's it smell?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 05:34pm PT
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you think you're really clever, don't ya, Philo?
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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Dec 30, 2008 - 05:37pm PT
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Question for Philo:
Why drag that insane conflict HERE?
What are we going to do about it?
How 'bout we leave Old Country beefs back in the Old Country?
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 05:41pm PT
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So the pleasure craft "Dignity" caring crucially needed medical supplies to the humanitarian crisis that is Gaza barely made it back to the port of Tyre in Lebanon. The relief ship was rammed three times by Israeli war ships IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS. The intent was much the same as their attack on the USS Liberty. They wanted to sink these boats. These are unprovoked acts of war. How do you apologists for Israel justify this act. How will you claim the right of self defense given it occurred to a non armed pleasure craft on a International humanitarian mission in International waters?
In your minds does Israel ever do wrong?
I NEVER said the Gazan rockets were harmless. It's just that compared to the military might and materiel of the IDF these rockets are pretty tame and mostly futile.
How many of these rockets landing in the same place at the same time would it take to equal the destruction of just one 1 ton israeli bomb dropped from the safety of an F-16?
And Chaz I am sorry you missed my post that explained that my wife is Palestinian and has family and friends under fire in the war zone. So yeah it is a little sensitive and personal to me. Do you have a problem with that? Do you want to turn my wife in to Homeland Security or the Mossad as a Terrorist sympathizer? Seems like something you guys would enjoy doing.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 05:46pm PT
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What would you expect military vessels to do in a naval blockade?
Duh? They're lucky they didn't get fired upon and sunk!
"In your minds does Israel ever do wrong?"
Yeah, of course...sometimes. It's human nature, especially in armed conflict.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 05:53pm PT
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Skip you are right I meant it for Bluering. Sorry but it is easy to get you all confused. You Know once you read one right wing radical you've read them all. Anyway sorry and f*#k you too!
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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Dec 30, 2008 - 05:54pm PT
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Maybe Philo missed my earlier point.
People from Palestine, Israel, and everywhere else in the world get along just fine in Los Angeles.
Why drag ANY conflict over here? We don't need it.
America's a nation of immigrants; We ALL have family in foreign countries who are / were in conflict. That's no reason to continue the conflicts over here.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 06:09pm PT
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Boo hoo Blew, what did you miss? The part about International Waters or the part about medicine? This isn't the US blockading Cuba to prevent further deployment of nuclear missiles. This a shipment of aid to a starving and dying people. This is not war time this is a unilateral attack and probable invasion. And you are popping up the corn to revel in the "deserved" carnage.
You know some of the finest pediatricians in the world and right here in the good ol US of A are refugee Palestinians. I prey that your child never gets deathly ill and you have to face one of these evil terrorist doctors in an emergency. Oh the horrors of moral dilemma!
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 06:13pm PT
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Of course they have.
Of course she does.
Anyone else you want murdered Jeff?
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Chris2
Trad climber
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Dec 30, 2008 - 06:13pm PT
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Cynthia McKinney, is a complete embarrassment.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 06:13pm PT
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"I prey that your child never gets deathly ill and you have to face one of these evil terrorist doctors in an emergency. Oh the horrors of moral dilemma! "
Actually my boy, John, was circumcisezed by a muslim female doctor. Pretty good job too!
Who the f*#k said anything bad about Paleo civis? You're getting all confused. I got no problem with them. Liberalism is sometimes a dangerous mental disorder.
Relax.
EDIT: "Cynthia McKinney, is a complete embarrassment"
I agree with you there, Chris.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 06:26pm PT
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It is the "paleo-civies" who are starving and dying under occupation.
It is the "paleo-civies" who are being mass murdered in these attacks.
Or have you convinced yourself that only enemies in uniform are dying?
Who is confused?
And again the use of "Paleo" to infer the Palestinian people is demeaning, debasing and dehumanizing. It is an effort to minimize the humanity of the Palestinians and make it easier to accept their slaughter. Kikes, wops, spics, krauts, japs. What's the difference when your demonizing a part of humanity you intend to see eliminated?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 07:03pm PT
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Alright, Paleo isn't a nice term, I'll stop.
In you last post you, as usual, you are way exagerrating. Mass murder, mass starvation, all at the hands of Israelis?
Nice try. You know, just because you say something that is shocking, doesn't mean everyone is going to buy it. You do a disservice to your arguement by making such absurd points.
I'm done her, for now, until you make other exagerrated or untrue statements.
(plus my wife has a Black Angus gift certificate and it's almost chow time)
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 07:12pm PT
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Alright, Paleo isn't a nice term, I'll stop.
Thank You.
In you last post you, as usual, you are way exagerrating. Mass murder, mass starvation, all at the hands of Israelis?
No I am not exaggerating. How many non combatant civilian deaths does it take before you call it murder? How many more before you call it mass murder?
I know that when it comes to the deaths of Israelis you think six is enough to accuse the Palestinians of Mass Murder. So how many hundreds of dead Palestinians will it take???
Nice try. You know, just because you say something that is shocking, doesn't mean everyone is going to buy it.
Just like when you all keep repeating deliberate misinformation?
I'm done her, for now, until you make other exagerrated or untrue statements.
Cool!
(plus my wife has a Black Angus gift certificate and it's almost chow time)
Seriously have a nice evening dining with the wife.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 07:13pm PT
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DaftRat show me one post where I write "evil Israelis". Just one!
Don't lie about what I say like you do about what Israel does.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 08:20pm PT
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I'm done her, for now, until you make other exagerrated or untrue statements.
Well I guess I passed his test.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 30, 2008 - 09:11pm PT
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Beginning of clip,
oops! sorry neighbors. We didn't think if we buried a few tons of explosives under your houses that that might happen.
end of clip,
Must have been some powerfull fava beans growing in that greenhouse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p--x0NCdJH4&feature=channel_page
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 10:10pm PT
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Oh spare me the ludicrousness of Your "surgical" strikes. There isn't any proof available to indicate hitting a weapons cache. Just Israeli say so. I can still remember Colin Powell standing in front of the world asserting with out doubt that the satellite pictures showed Iraqi mobile chemical weapons plants. I also remember it didn't turn out to be true. Did it? If you insist all Israeli strikes are surgically accurate then the recent missile strikes on Hospitals and the University, including the women's dorm, were deliberate.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 31, 2008 - 10:09am PT
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1051290.html
http://www.haaretz.com/hasite/images/iht_daily/D301208/248iranAP.jpgLast update - 20:58 30/12/2008
Iran Jews stage pro-Palestinian rally near UN offices in Tehran
By Yoav Stern, Haaretz Correspondent
Tags: Gaza, Hamas, Israel News
Members of Iran's small Jewish community staged a demonstration outside of the United Nations' office in Tehran, to protest the Israel Defense Forces' operation in the Gaza Strip. The official Iranian news agency, IRNA, reported that community members, alongside Jewish parliamentarian Siamak Mara-Sedq, urged Israel to do its part to return quiet and security to the region.
The chairman of Iran's Jewish Union, Rahmatullah Raafi, said the community had come out in support of the Palestinian people.
"We are here to express out support and sympathy for the Palestinian nation," he said, adding that Muslim nations could rise up as a single large force against Israel. He also said that the victors of the current conflict were the residents of Gaza.
Israeli sources familiar with the Iranian Jewish community suspect that the demonstration was organized by the government in Tehran, and does not represent that actual stance of Iranian Jews.
Some 25,000 Jews still live in Iran. Many have visited Israel, where a large percentage of the community has immigrated in the past 30 years. Still, others prefer to remain in Iran. There are rarely reports of the community suffering from antagonism or aggression from their neighbors or from the government.
Yeah Iran must be a terrible place to allow Jews unfettered lives where they can travel to Israel and back, where that can gather in a large group to protest. Protest what? The horrific actions of the Israeli government.
So should we turn this traitorous bastard s into the Mossad? Or just kill them as terrorist sympathizers?
Imagine that Jews living in a supposedly tyrannical anti Jewish state protesting against Israel. What is the world comming to.
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