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overwatch
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Dec 15, 2015 - 06:29am PT
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But he is good, said so himself. No one's advice or input needed.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Dec 15, 2015 - 08:17am PT
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^^^ What he said. Dick.
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Dec 15, 2015 - 08:20am PT
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Get involved. Get a drill, and get "involved".
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Dec 15, 2015 - 08:21am PT
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Ammon - I deleted the thread on FB because people were using it to have an ethics debate, instead of going to the ethics thread it linked to to have an ethics debate, lol.
You really have no idea how ridiculous you sound do you?
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RyanD
climber
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Dec 15, 2015 - 09:03am PT
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Lmao
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overwatch
climber
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Dec 15, 2015 - 09:12am PT
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He is one guy who needs less time on the rock and more on the internet...please!!??
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 15, 2015 - 09:15am PT
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The Hillary step on Everest could use a few extra bolts with hand handles & footsteps attached to them to help the with the bottle neck there .....
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Dec 15, 2015 - 09:28am PT
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LOL!
Sloan is a relentless machine!
He gives zero F&$k's!
WOOT!
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matty
Trad climber
under the sea
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Dec 15, 2015 - 10:03am PT
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"actions speak louder than words"
Like the actions of adding bolts mid pitch, and bolt ladders to get around inconvenient pitches, and the action of deleting a conversation about your actions once it turns on you and the actions of dismissing/ignoring opposing viewpoints, all of which add up to actions of setting a bad example for future climbers.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Dec 15, 2015 - 10:28am PT
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Reagan, as Governor of California, unleashed a horde of mentally ill patients, out onto the streets, in the name of "free enterprise economics" to save the wealthy from "oppressive" taxes.
And now?
A sordid and vile spawn (process: insemination, birth and breeding) has been unleashed upon a hapless populace.
Sloan is now running WILD! By God, and no law to stop him.
As of right now, he's in Yosemite, going bonkers with a power drill.
Ronny, you dickhead C-list actor hack - you've screwed us all. F-U
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overwatch
climber
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Dec 16, 2015 - 06:51am PT
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Keeping it bumped
vvvvvvvv yep, you never know. There is no name to that game. Don't judge a book by its cover was never more true than when it comes to fighting
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Club
climber
Birmingham
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Dec 16, 2015 - 07:18am PT
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Just take him out. Seriously? Actually yes. Better than spreading the disease. Got a better idea?
Get with it; get involved. Woot Woot!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 16, 2015 - 08:18am PT
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Erik- Pull your head out of your ass and listen up. Your time on this forum and your term as geek celebrity guidebook author are rapidly coming to an end. Unless you actually engage here and change your behavior then I for one am going to make sure that Cmac looks after his own interests as a guidebook author and bans you and all of your poisonous BS from this forum.
I am quite sure that Donny Reid and Roger Putnam are also disgusted with your scene so there won't be another edition of the Yosemite wall guide much less anything new. Not a word from Roger in all of this discussion which screams volumes. I know that Donny isn't behind you as I talked directly with him about your activities and did everything I could to stop you at the outset.
Donny is one of the "old guys" whose high personal standards oppress you so deeply. Just admit it Erik, you have never been able to measure up to the Yosemite standards in any era so why not measure down?
That you are willing to invoke other Yosemite climbers in vainglorious support of you debauchery is truly sad but you are a drowning man. Up thread you chose to invoke Tom Frost by stating that he said that all aid bolts needed to be 3/8" and stainless. I asked him directly about that statement and he categorically denied having said any such thing. He did make such a statement about replacing protection and belay bolts which is sensible, of course.
Allow me to be painfully clear- Tom Frost is diametrically opposed to the sort of route alteration that you are doing by personally adding and upsizing so many bolts on existing routes as to diminish and alter their original character. Shame on you for your fecklessness and hollow desperation for position and recognition in the absence of real accomplishment or talent.
We who establish these proud and challenging routes and have done our best up there despise you for stooping so low as you have chosen to do in the name of community service and modernization. Leave Yosemite alone or at the minimum go bugger your own routes. Funny but I can't even think of one that you have put up...
You are happy that every belay on the Salathe is now bolted. When I tell that to Tom Frost it makes him very sad as that amazing crack system gave Chuck, Royal and Tom everything that they needed on the FA and delightfully so. If what you do directly and advocate for otherwise makes a great and proud climber like Tom sad then it makes a respectful man like me profoundly angry. If its action that you want then we will undo your foolish and destructive bolting even though it is truly depressing work and you have left a real mess to clean up and restore.
You are no different that a guy with a can of spray paint who desires to leave a mark as a vandal on this phenomenally beautiful landscape and world class climbing area. We as a community won't stand for it.
CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU DUMBASS?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Dec 16, 2015 - 09:07am PT
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Ever more graceless. Your lack of self respect is even more distasteful than my compulsion to comment on it.
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Dec 16, 2015 - 09:10am PT
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^^^Oh man this is gonna be good...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 16, 2015 - 09:12am PT
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Erik- You put words in Tom's mouth that he directly denied when I asked him.
To take a shot at him and his relationship with his son is simply pathetic.
Tom doesn't support what you doing. Plain and simple.
The community is hammering you and yet you still try to act as the spokesperson that you are not.
Roger- Please post here as you aren't the one being criticized. Do you support degrading existing routes? Yes or no?
Go back to the Book of Revelations as you insisted you would and put your convenience anchor in again and see just little support the community gives you.
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Ogden, Utah
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Dec 16, 2015 - 09:23am PT
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For starters, Tom Frost fully supports the local climbing community changing things as we see fit. He told Chris Mac and I that when we went to him about adding a bolt or two on the NA wall. He said 'oh well we were just young guys that didn't have any idea what climbing would be like in the future, and you guys are going up there having already climbed these routes, with an eye for stewardship - You should decide what is best. Kudos to You!'. That's what he said Steve.
If Tom really did say this I'm sure he didn't realize the can of worms he opened... inside your head.
Erik, your ego is out of control! You need to listen to the majority of the climbing community and stop what you're doing. I don't know a single person who agrees with your actions 100%. That should speak volumes! It's not up to you to revamp the Valley, as you wish.
I'm seriously worried about you. I fear you have lost (or slowly losing) your mind.
How could you possibly justify your actions? The hypocrisy is astounding on SO many levels.
Edit- and why bring personal family information into this discussion? Totally LAME and unnecessary. You need to delete the personal info!!!
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matty
Trad climber
under the sea
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Dec 16, 2015 - 09:31am PT
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^^^
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Ogden, Utah
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Dec 16, 2015 - 09:32am PT
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Erik, personal information about a family you have no business repeating has no value in this discussion. So LAME you would even mention that here. You need to delete it!!!!
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canyoncat
Social climber
SoCal
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Dec 16, 2015 - 09:32am PT
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You felt the need to discuss what you imagine to be someone's personal relationship with their own child.........you are a maggot of the lowest order bud.
I don't think you need fear any blanket party. No one would want to dirty their blankets like that.
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