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Dave
Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
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Jan 11, 2016 - 04:21pm PT
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"I'm not sure what the paperwork was, but the university is exempt from future liability after a survey was done and the university accepted an certain dollar ammount of remediation, whereupon the Feds are responsible for either fixing the issues themselves or going after the actual polluters. Most of the future issues will be groundwater related."
Guess the EPA wrote up an exception. University still has to pay for something they didn't have any part of causing...
And then trust the EPA will live up to their end of the bargain...
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 11, 2016 - 05:04pm PT
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Crankpot coward nutcase the loon is the biggest brainwashed creep on this forum and disgusting tool to boot .....
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 11, 2016 - 05:44pm PT
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American-allied nations are secretly helping ISIS to grow - US Colonel Ann Wright
Apparently not very good at keeping a secret, no.
http://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/185848-us-invasion-iraq-isis/
One good comment on the page
ISIS = Israeli Secret Intelligence Service
However, I do believe that the types of pressure that can be put on groups that do support ISIS, that have allowed ISIS to purchase military equipment, that are working with ISIS to buy on the black market oil from the oil fields that ISIS has captured - I think that’s really where ultimately the pressure points are…
SS: Which groups are you talking about? Could you be more precise?
AW: If you look at who is behind the oil, who is behind the oil from those oil fields, where it is going, through what borders is it going - some of it is going up into Turkey, so you've got to put pressure on the Turkish government to stop the flow of oil; you've got to put pressure on the Turkish government to stop allowing these large groups of international fighters that have crossed the border from Turkey for the last several years. I would say, you have to put pressure on the Saudis: the Saudis have been pouring a large amounts of money, as have the governments of Kuwait and of Qatar, into various groups of the foreign fighters.
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Jan 11, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
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patrick compton & crankster: Thanks for the laughs. Glad to see these guys get the respect they have earned.
EDIT:
crankster - I particularly like that image of the bird in the cartoon identified "as the only bird worth watching" which was, of course, the eagle from The Great Seal of the United States.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jan 11, 2016 - 06:25pm PT
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Thank you Vitaly, you are our modern contempory. None of us are qualified to post up as authorities as compared to you.
Wait a minute, what thread am I on?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jan 11, 2016 - 06:28pm PT
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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 12, 2016 - 08:37am PT
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Freedom fighters?
Ask JE about what exactly 'che' means. All I know is that the clerks at the register smiled broadly when they'd hand me my change and I'd say it.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jan 12, 2016 - 01:16pm PT
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Pigs. Chestnut blight, goats, bay mussel, largemouth bass, Dutch elm disease, Russian thistle, ranchers say wild horses, short grass, some sea stars.
We caused most of those.
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Dick Danger
Trad climber
Lakewood, Colorado
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Jan 12, 2016 - 02:44pm PT
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jan 12, 2016 - 03:28pm PT
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Yeah, but did they have throw rugs?
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jan 12, 2016 - 04:02pm PT
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Guess the EPA wrote up an exception. University still has to pay for something they didn't have any part of causing...
Depends how you look at it. I know the college attorney tasked with the purchase. Remediation the EPA agreed to/mandated was deducted from purchase price. The original owner was a bit pissed when he found he still had liability. Apparently his attorneys weren't as bright. The owner the University bought the land from did not run the creosote plant. He bought the land for spec.
At around the same time, he donated an island to the city for a park that was first a gravel quarry, and then he filled the hole with contaminated dredging waste from the river under contract with the Corps of engineers (PCB's). Turns out he's still liable for that cleanup, too.
His name is on the university business school.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 12, 2016 - 04:47pm PT
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Nutcase stupor topo forum hypocrites still playing grab azz with some lowly cowboys all while their US govt is running the largest narcotics production facility in the world in Afghanistan .....
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Jan 12, 2016 - 05:00pm PT
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Beep beep! $70,000 / day fines for the leader of the take-over.
I'm glad to learn they will be getting billed for this nonsense and intimidation.
Will this scare the Bundys into retreat?
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jonnyrig
climber
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Jan 12, 2016 - 06:19pm PT
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Is it possible, in a heavy fire season, that those employees, if they were not conducting correct actions, were simply inept, vs malicious?
How many people do you know, out of the crews you worked with, who would have intentionally set fires to destroy property and homes? Were there any that were inept or inadequately trained?
This isn't an attack, it's a question of possibilities, for the editor in chief.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jan 12, 2016 - 07:32pm PT
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Beep beep! $70,000 / day fines for the leader of the take-over.
I'm glad to learn they will be getting billed for this nonsense and intimidation.
Will this scare the Bundys into retreat?
No, they are family of deadbeats. What's $70k per day when his dad owes a million?
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jan 12, 2016 - 07:41pm PT
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Still a pretty sizable chunk of change? I mean this is what, day 10? That's $700k right there.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jan 13, 2016 - 05:40am PT
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Is it possible, in a heavy fire season, that those employees, if they were not conducting correct actions, were simply inept, vs malicious?
How many people do you know, out of the crews you worked with, who would have intentionally set fires to destroy property and homes? Were there any that were inept or inadequately trained?
This isn't an attack, it's a question of possibilities, for the editor in chief.
Quite possible. But since when does ignorance not come with consequences? Saying "Oh it was a mistake" doesn't put the stink back in the skunk. The Hammonds are in jail for 5 years and $400k in fines for a mistake.
Others, including government employees should be held to the same standard, and they are not. The video is not the only instance of government controlled burns getting out of control. I'm not aware of any direct employees or their agencies remitting reparations for their ineptitude (or maliciousness)
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