Trip Report
Back In The Nam. Humping The A Shau Valley With Captain Jeremy
Friday August 26, 2011 2:13pm
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No cameras on this mission boys. Beaucoup toppy secret ya know?

I told the cap'n I only had from 0900-1500 hrs, between transport missions with the kids.
"No problem, close to the road." He assured me.

So I find myself racking gear in an already too hot parking lot, with the mouth of the canyon looking a long way off. We've got Corporal Zuni sniffing the trail and looking for a spot to dump. "No problem" sez Cap'n J, "that scout dog will have an easy time with this trail".

The humidity is high for this time of year, and combined with the sun, the sweat starts to drip freely as the hill steepens and there is no breeze for relief. The terrain is becoming a jumbled mess of boulders and slabs as the vegetation begins closing in. "Not that far" sez the Cap'n as I begin to wonder what I've signed on for.

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After what seems like hours grinding this grade, I'm watching Corporal Zuni skitter and scratch his way across steep slabs and make desperate dynos for far away ledges. The Gawdamn little VC bugs are closing in now.....


F*#K!! I yell out loud. "What the hell's the matter Ranger?" barks the Cap'n.
All that screwing around with the kit, and I've walked off without paying the parking fee back at LZ Hot-Hump. "F*#k the ticket!" yell's Top Dawg, "I ain't humping back down there!"

After I put my jungle boot down and tell him he's gonna be on a big solo mission, we stash our rucks and make a dash (as much of a dash as we can make over this distance and terrain in this heat.) back to the LZ to pay the man his lousy 3 Dong.

We take the time to refill our canteens and hope that the temps haven't climbed faster than we have. We slowly claw our way back up the canyon to our high point and continue into the ever-thickening bush. More slick slabs, unlikely detours, around towering boulders of heat baked granite. When does this damn Nam trek end? I'm bitching like a short timer now. "Just over that next ridge." sez Cap'n J.

F*#kin' officers have been lying to me since I was drafted. Why should it be different now?

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Corporal Zuni takes a whipper off a misjudged dyno and craters on the slab below. A small whimper and looks at me with begging eyes as he licks a slime ooze on the polished slab.....


Seriously man, if this objective is much further away, there won't be any time to climb up to Charlie's stronghold. The school bell at the end of the day waits for no man, nawmean?

"It's just ahead ya cryin' pantywaste!" screams CJ. When I see the cruel bastard drop his ruck I thank the gods of the grunt for small favors.

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"Yeah we can tackle this one, or that beautiful crack up on the next ridge."
"This one." I mumble.

In front of me is a gaping maw with a slick looking slab on the left wall.
"Casual" sez Cap'n J. "You just layback that f*#ker."
"Where's the first pro?" I stammer...

There's a piece of sucker booty right above the belay. "Booby trap, put here by Victor Charlie." I swear under my breath, as I suspiciously inspect the glinting stopper. Then in the blink of an eye I'm tooth to tooth with the flaring slick bunghole above! I'm not laybacking the f*#ker either, I'm pimpin', groveling and flailing deep in the back like a gawdamn n00b trying to get the biggest cam I have to fit some tipped out spot. I really don't want to hit the ledge next to the Cap'n. That would be even worse than losing skin back in this gash. At least there's some cool air with my face stuck back in this thing.....

I manage to worm my way out of the maw eventually and cluster some good pro under a roof so I'll have good proper rope drag up above.

"I don't know Cap'n, it looks just as hard up above and I'm thrashed.."

"Aww, it's easy man, don't be such a pussy." sneers the hell hound below.

Fearfully I tackle the upper ramparts and find I can milk one cam along with me to keep from crying.

Damn I wish I was back home with Mary Lou and her hay loft.

As I thrutch my way onto the belay ledge, I realize we have no time to continue. I've got to fight my way out of here so I don't incur the wrath of the authoritahs back in town. (Kids can be just as cruel as Cap'n J.)

"Not bad, eh? heh heh heh..." chortles Satan.

"No Medivac for you Ranger. Nuthin' but your achin' GI dawgs to get you outta here."

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A true brute-fest for one lousy pitch. Just another stinkin' patrol with Captain Jeremy.

Welcome back to the A Shau Valley son......


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Comments
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
  Aug 26, 2011 - 02:38pm PT
I watched a snail crawl across the edge of a straight razor.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 26, 2011 - 02:47pm PT
"I don't know sir, it's pretty hot up there. That's Charlie's crack."








"CHARLIE DON"T OFFWIDTH!!"

"I'll give you a choice son. Now grab your rack and climb, or fight."

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 26, 2011 - 02:54pm PT
"You're not a climber soldier. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to deliver a message...."

Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
  Aug 26, 2011 - 02:59pm PT
A true brute-fest for one lousy pitch.

That's one more pitch than we get on most of our recons, so whattaya whining about? You some kind of candy-ass momma's boy? Now shut up or next time they'll send you on something really ugly.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 26, 2011 - 03:34pm PT
Now shut up or next time they'll send you on something really ugly.




They sent me up here to climb this thing?
Hell, I didn't even know what climbing was anymore......


Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
  Aug 26, 2011 - 03:48pm PT
never get out of the boat
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
  Aug 26, 2011 - 03:52pm PT
Ah Survival, now that is an appropriate break from WOS.

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
  Aug 26, 2011 - 03:55pm PT
An excellent break.

Here is more from Kurtz:
“I've seen horrors... horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror. Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies. I remember when I was with Special Forces. Seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate the children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A ile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not monsters. These were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment. Because it's judgment that defeats us.”
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 26, 2011 - 04:29pm PT
Thanks guys!!




"Yessir, he's up in the Offwidth now sir. Flashing it sir? No sir, he's moanin' like a little bitch, sir."
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 26, 2011 - 04:28pm PT
"Ohhhh, you numba one big Offwidth climbah? Me love you loong time!"

Bob Clark

Ice climber
oc
  Aug 26, 2011 - 05:00pm PT
Been there done all that, Thanks, Doc Clark 173ABN LRRP 67-68, them were the days, thanks Survival!! Good day to be livin!!
nutjob

Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
  Aug 26, 2011 - 05:12pm PT
Who needs movies or real adventures with trip reports like this?

Errr, I could still use some adventures. But thanks for an astronaut-kicking trip report and follow on parlance.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
  Aug 26, 2011 - 06:04pm PT
Survival: What about the Cobras? There must have been some close calls??

An the Leaches and the tigers too??? What about them?

A gripping epic nonetheless!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 26, 2011 - 09:38pm PT
Been there done all that, Thanks, Doc Clark 173ABN LRRP 67-68, them were the days, thanks Survival!! Good day to be livin!!


Hoo yah! Good to see you here Doc!!! Tell me some tales!

There's a thread called ghosts of Vietnam you might be interested in.
Swerv

climber
Eagle River, AK
  Aug 26, 2011 - 11:17pm PT
"Albuquerque... shit; I'm still only in Albuquerque... Every time I think I'm gonna wake up back on the rock."

Yu clime looong time numba whan G I.....

That great line by Capt. Willard, "Oh man... the bullshit piled up so fast, you needed wings to stay above it." I use that a lot at work!

BTW, loved the title of your story. My first mission was in the A-Shau Valley on 9/23/70. Picked up a Thud driver (Dallas 01) that bailed out!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 27, 2011 - 12:15am PT
SWERV! You Jolly Green Bastard you!
My brother, my hero.

Speakin' of humpin' the A Shau, where was this one taken bro?
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
  Aug 27, 2011 - 01:43am PT
The model for “Apocalypse Now’s “Lieutenant Colonel Bill Kilgore [Robert Duvall] fictional name played in part from a 101st Airborne, 1st Brigade, 327 Tiger Force commander by a name of Major David Hackworth.

Brando at the ends explains it all.

Chamber’s book is OK, missed out on some info.
Bob Clark

Ice climber
oc
  Aug 27, 2011 - 10:56am PT
Stories and truths, probably to many topics and details for any single sitting and virgin ears. Those out there who know, Know!! In the annuls of LRRP operations there are stories; Tigers?, Cobras (heard) of one being killed, 10 footer in a ditch outside Bien Hoa, bamboo vipers probably more plentiful, big ass centipedes and highly toixc scorpions, the clap, (gotta love'em) and Cobras, Cobra Gunships for me I saw my first in late 68, our support prior came from Huey gunships, with rocket pods and sixties (bless those guys), Leeches yes, When you put your foot down and the whole jungle floor moves towards you, you Got leeches, even with boots taped and saturated with insecticide, blood sucking motha's, plentiful in some areas.

The history of LRRP opps, SF opps starting in the early -late sixties demonstrates the brutal, clandestine, and technical methods of learning the do' and dont's guerrilla warfare. Wether its LRRP, SOG, pilot rescue, pathfinder, Marine recon or other special group, entering enemy territory with a small team always had a pucker factor of the charts. The ability to not be comprimised was paramount, Many of those lessons learned are practiced today by our finest in truly savage arenas.

For me , I would not wish what I did back then on anybody, but I would not trade any of it for anything. I do carry a bit of that spirit in my climbing, nite infiltrations, small team, minimal gear, quiet approach, little mini missions ( combat without bullets). Good rainy days, stormed out by mother nature, or as I like to think (Just a Dak To kinda day!!!) You all take care!! BOB
Brian

climber
California
  Aug 27, 2011 - 11:26am PT
When I was here, I wanted to be there; when I was there, all I could think of was getting back into the mountains. I'm here a week now... waiting for an objective... getting softer. Every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Charlie ticks another line, he gets stronger. Each time I looked around the walls moved in a little tighter.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 27, 2011 - 11:59am PT
You've gotta tell the story Survival! I mean, people will condemn him, was he a GOOD offwidth climber, was he a GREAT offwidth climber? He's visionary man, he's a genius I mean I'm a little man, he's a GREAT man.

Me tell the story? C'mon man, LOOK AT ME MAN!!

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 27, 2011 - 12:10pm PT
I wanted an offwidth mission. And for my sins they gave me one.


"Offwidth sir?" "Off width, with, extreme.....prejudice..."



Swerv

climber
Eagle River, AK
  Aug 27, 2011 - 05:58pm PT
Speakin' of humpin' the A Shau, where was this one taken bro?

B- that photo was taken at Da Nang. Got whacked on a rescue mission across the fence in Laos. Sh#t, I meant S. VN. We really weren't in Laos you know! LMFAO.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 28, 2011 - 11:55am PT
Swerv, glad you made it out of Laos in one piece...almost. Especially since you weren't really there!!!







Which one of you gawdamn little wrinklesticks said you could come up here and climb my f*#king offwidth?"
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
  Aug 28, 2011 - 01:08pm PT
Awesome TR.

I could listen to stories from you Nam vets for a long time....
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 28, 2011 - 03:29pm PT
Great photo Cosmic.

Funny, I still miss those jungle fatigues. Pissed me off when the AF took 'em away from us.





The only good offwidth, is a hot sweaty offwidth.
Animal-Muther

Ezra Ellis

Trad climber
North wet, and Da souf
  Aug 28, 2011 - 03:31pm PT
survival, were you in Viet Nam? I figured you to be a bit young?

Good stuff, thanks!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 28, 2011 - 03:56pm PT
Ezra, I was a bit young, didn't join til 81. But looking back, being only six years after the war ended, it was still very much "The Era".
I was in the service with many guys who did tours in SE Asia. And as a survival instructor, of course I had to study that war an awful lot.
So in many ways it seems like I'm one of them, even though I'm not.

It just seemed like a flash of brilliance when the Nam Offwidth TR came into my head! I even had Jeremy laughing about it up on the mountain. F*#k, I even crack myself up sometimes......
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
  Aug 28, 2011 - 04:00pm PT
Not to get off topic too much...

We Were Soldiers Once


is a kick ass movie!!!!! It is the beginning of The War. A-Shau Valley.
Ezra Ellis

Trad climber
North wet, and Da souf
  Aug 28, 2011 - 04:13pm PT
Thanks for the history survival,

My uncle was a helicopter gunner for 2 tours in Nam. Messed him up pretty bad from what I can tell. Made him like the drink alot.

My uncle said that he was running into cambodia on Uncle Sam's behalf two years before the US government ever acknowledged our presence there.

The uncle of my Best man at my wedding had and unbelievable story about cambodia, he was a Navy seal, I think. He claimed that he took a nuclear weapon in to cambodia with his partner, and one of them would have had to stay with it and ensure that it was detonated, if they ever received the order to set it off. My best man was very believable as a source. Interesting story.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
  Aug 28, 2011 - 04:18pm PT
My best man was very believable as a source. Interesting story.

I'm sure!

This is the kinda sh#t I love. We'll never know.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 28, 2011 - 04:28pm PT
I heard the Wings Of Steel guys used that very rig for their "enhancements".

El Cap Pirate used one too. Should be 5.8 face by the time I get there.

Those weenies could never climb the A Shau Offwidth!!!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 28, 2011 - 04:46pm PT
Cosmic, Yer bustin' out the goods man!!

Those dudes look like they could do the A Shau Offwidth, 'specially after a night with the "dancer". Way to go Cosmic.
Is that yer dad with the photo and his hand on the ol' pud?? Classic!!





Special post for Doc Clark.
173rd ARBN LRRP guys
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
  Aug 28, 2011 - 05:41pm PT
Interesting timing.

My Vietnamese neighbor's dad passed on last year. The only coat I ever saw him in was a faded 60's era flight jacket, unless he had his suit on on Sunday morning.

I always wondered what the back story was on that, but his son had moved to Georgia and the language barrier with he, his daughter or wife were too much to have a conversation about it. Just from his carriage though you could tell he was a man who had been bent far, but never broken.

Vincent, (the son) was in town for a wedding, only a couple of days. This morning we got to catch up for a few minutes and I asked him what the story was that went with the jacket that he had been inseparable from.

His dad was ARVN airborne and had been captured on a mission gone wrong in N Vietnam in 1966. He'd survived almost thirty years in communist prisons before making it to the states.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
  Aug 28, 2011 - 06:19pm PT
One of my technicians, who was the best tech I've seen, just was forced into retirement at 67 years old. It was hard for me because I was his boss and the new company acquiring us insisted on this.

He is an ARVRN vet as well. A radio-patrol captain. He told me many stories of his men getting their hands on commies. They weren't pretty. And they always ended the same way - Dead Commies.

He was known on the production floor as "the old man" or "the old buffalo".

May he live his life in peace now. He still hates commies!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Aug 30, 2011 - 11:36am PT
"You better just quit right now Survival. You know you got no chance to climb my offwidth. YOU DON"T BELONG HERE !!!"


"I GOT NOWHERE ELSE TO GO!!"
Robb

Social climber
Cat Box
  Aug 30, 2011 - 01:47pm PT
Blue
"We Were Soldiers Once


is a kick ass movie!!!!! It is the beginning of The War. A-Shau Valley"

Not the A Shau, but the Ia Drang and they cleaned our clocks...bad!
Tomcat

Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
  Aug 30, 2011 - 02:19pm PT
At La Drang we had 240 dead, 470 injured, six MIA. North Vietnamese had 2262 dead, 2000 injured, and 136 captured.
Bob Clark

Ice climber
oc
  Aug 30, 2011 - 02:59pm PT
Survival, Very accurate photo, willie peter, couple of smoke, a frag or two, extra ammo, painted up like a bug, muzzel taped, what you don't see are the claymores in the pack, with or without 8 or 16 sec fuses(keep those detached!!), an extra PRC 25 battery, small amount of chow, few dexe's some no sh#t pills,a battle dressing, a map, signal mirror, orange signal panel, perhaps small flair gun, water and a destination with a very large pucker factor which will stay with you for days,months and years. Size of the team of five was in my opinion always the most effective for recon activity. Larger teams of 6-12 were used for different purposes, but five well disciplined men, could accomplish the mission and in most cases, rain down hell fire if needed(getting in a shoot out probably was not the best option). BOB



ps. Always preferred last light infiltrations, couldn't always happen but getting away from the LZ quickly was a must, and nightfall helped.
Mangy Peasant

Social climber
Riverside, CA
  Aug 30, 2011 - 04:08pm PT
At La Drang we had 240 dead, 470 injured, six MIA. North Vietnamese had 2262 dead, 2000 injured, and 136 captured.

10 to 1 ratio.

Just do this a few more times and we've won the war.

Right?

My time in the military was in the 1980s. There were still a few Vietnam Vets around and I had tremendous respect for all of them. Still do.

But let's be careful not to glorify it. Else the next generation may want to do it again.
survivalmademedoit

Trad climber
Grantham, New Hampshire
  Aug 31, 2011 - 01:53pm PT
Classic Birchell stuff.....one of the great authors of ST. "I ain't got no place else to go (but up)" is his secret everytime we've climbed together.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Author's Reply  Sep 5, 2011 - 10:30am PT
Thanks for posting Vojtko!!

I was hoping you'd show up you nasty old drill sergeant!!
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