Trip Report
Old Men on Hoy

by Tony
Wednesday November 16, 2011 9:35pm
I am feeling a little embarrassed that practically all of my posts for some time have been in the “Birds” thread. It’s probably justified since I have done very little climbing of late. The inevitable geezer decline, for those not named Donini, has accelerated in the last couple of years due to various physical setbacks. I seem to be in perpetual convalescence or rehab mode. My last real climbing adventure was well described by Darwin,The Stairs of Kirith Ungol. Since then I had a total ankle replacement in June, 2010. Just when I was getting back up to (relative) speed, my hip started acting up leading to a hip replacement a couple of weeks ago. I now find myself with too much time on my hands, so I thought I would rectify matters a bit by dusting off some photos of a climb I did of the sea stack The Old Man of Hoy in 2006.

First a little background. Despite its remoteness, this climb is rather famous in the UK. It was first climbed in 1966 by the illustrious team of Rusty Baillie, Chris Bonington and Tom Patey with a little aid. In 1967 the BBC did a live broadcast of an ascent by Joe Brown, Ian McNaught-Davis, Pete Crew and Dougal Haston, who also added a couple of harder routes. This sea stack got its name when there was a second leg forming an arch as depicted below. As late as 1750 it was shown as part of the mainland. The regular route is rated E1 5b. As far as I can tell this is about 5.10a/b, which means it might even be harder – maybe 5.9+.
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Painting by William Daniell, 1817
Painting by William Daniell, 1817
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Here is how it looks now.
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The event that triggered this climb was when Yvonne and I were kindly invited to join friends Debbie and Pierre for a trip to the Shetland Islands. They had traveled a lot in Scotland and wanted a more extended time in the Shetlands. Since we were going that far, I wanted to add at least one climb and I was familiar with the Old Man as a result of reading Feeding the Rat by Al Alvarez. I knew I could probably only manage this if I hired a guide. I had never done this before. Well, actually when I climbed Mt. Kenya in 1999 I was roped up with a guide, but I had to treat this as simul-climbing due to rather lax protection traditions there. After a bit of digging, I contacted a Scottish guide, Dave “Smiler” Cuthbertson, who was willing to meet us there for the climb. To help the pre-trip psyche-up, I had received the DVD via Jaybro put together by Dogfather with recorded TV shows with climbing. One of these included a Wide World of Sports broadcast of a climb of the Old Man by Ron Kauk and an English lass. Unfortunately, I would find out that the editing had removed any footage of Kauk making the crux moves, not that I could necessarily copy them. I think Werner was involved in rigging for this show.

Of course we had a great time in the Shetlands. I highly recommend it as a travel destination. Debbie and Pierre were quite patient with our birding delays. Actually, they were quite interested, but just not as gonzo as us. There are many seabird colonies, including Puffins, and amazing scenery. After ten days, we parted ways and headed to Orkney Mainland. The nomenclature is bit confusing, since Orkney Mainland is an island, just the largest. We hired a car and traveled by ferry to Hoy and on to our cottage at Rackwick Bay.
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Rackwick Bay
Rackwick Bay
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The next day Smiler made the long journey via ferries from his home on Loch Ness, and we met Smiler at the dock and headed back to our cottage. We got acquainted and walked out to scope the approach to the climb. Smiler had done the climb a couple of times, but not for some time.The next morning we woke to pretty good weather. It would remain so for most of the climbing day. On the way to the climb:
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Sign at the trailhead
Sign at the trailhead
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Smiler on the approach
Smiler on the approach
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The scariest part of the climb was the descent to the shore over steep, slippery ground.
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Descent to the shore
Descent to the shore
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We roped up at the base of stack and Smiler led up loose rock to a big platform. At some point the rope dislodged a football size rock which came careening toward me. I watched as it made the last bounce and dodged my head to the left and saw it fly practically over my shoulder.
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Looking up the first pitch. There is a much harder route on the face l...
Looking up the first pitch. There is a much harder route on the face left of the edge.
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The second, crux pitch traverses right to a crack system with two roofs. The first roof is passed using pretty good holds along the arête.
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Smiler on pitch 2
Smiler on pitch 2
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Smiler continued up, out of sight. Next it was my turn. Since I couldn’t see above the first roof, I wondered what I had in store for me. I did hear Smiler lament that he had pulled on the sling again, despite planning to skip it this time. The traverse and first roof went pretty easily, but had great exposure. I continued up towards the second roof which was preceded by a Bombay slot and followed by a fist crack. I chimneyed up the slot and then was befuddled by the moves exiting the slot. Before it becomes fist-sized the crack is a smooth, flared, poddy thing. After a couple of futile efforts, I succumbed to temptation and grabbed the ratty slings attached to a wooden wedge.
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The crux slot
The crux slot
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One of a couple of wooden wedges on the crux pitch
One of a couple of wooden wedges on the crux pitch
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The top of pitch 2
The top of pitch 2
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The rest of crack was a nice fist crack with some footholds on the walls, ending on a great triangular platform. The next two pitches were pretty easy climbing from ledge to ledge, but were still heads-up due to the sandy surface and wetness resulting from frequent rain and mist.
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Pitch 3, I think
Pitch 3, I think
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There were some bemused spectators.
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Atlantic Puffins on the Old Man of Hoy
Atlantic Puffins on the Old Man of Hoy
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There were many Northern Fulmars flying around and nesting and perching on the ledges. There was only one on the route, though. I had been warned to wear clothes I was happy to discard in case one of them chose to eject the foul oil it uses as a deterrent. This Fulmar seemed to be used to climbers coming by. I tried to move very slowly and smoothly to avoid alarming her. At one point she stood up and I thought “Here it comes”, but she was just changing position on the egg.
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Northern Fulmar on the Old Man of Hoy
Northern Fulmar on the Old Man of Hoy
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The final pitch is a completely classic crack-corner.
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Smiler on the summit (5th) pitch
Smiler on the summit (5th) pitch
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Near the top the crack goes all the way through.
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Near the top of the final pitch
Near the top of the final pitch
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Of course, it has a fabulous summit. You have to walk carefully because of the wet grass.
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Smiler on the summit
Smiler on the summit
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Me on the summit
Me on the summit
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We headed down via steep rappels, including one on a diagonal that we had to fix on the way up.
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Rappeling the route
Rappeling the route
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We headed back to the cottage, where we celebrated with a few wee drams of whisky.The next morning we took Smiler back to the ferry and returned to our cottage for the rest of our stay.
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Seeing Smiler off at Stromness
Seeing Smiler off at Stromness
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The next day I hiked out to the cliff with my DSLR to get some long shots of the Old Man.
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The route. The pitches are V. Diff.,5b,4b,4b,4c. Supposedly pulling on...
The route. The pitches are V. Diff.,5b,4b,4b,4c. Supposedly pulling on the sling makes it 5a. I'll leave it to others to make the translations
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The last pitch. The white dots are Northern Fulmars
The last pitch. The white dots are Northern Fulmars
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We couldn’t resist this shot, given the unstable nature of the formation.
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Of course, we found some good birds.
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Northern Wheatear
Northern Wheatear
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Redshank
Redshank
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Bonxies (Great Skuas) bathing
Bonxies (Great Skuas) bathing
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Pied Wagtail
Pied Wagtail
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Epilogue:
We had such a good time, we ended up going to Scotland again in 2007. This included a stay at Smiler’s cottage in Dores, on Loch Ness. During a single dry day, we did a couple of climbs in the Cairngorms on Ardverkie Wall. We also visited the Orkney Islands and the Hebrides. These are other highly recommended destinations. Orkney has amazing archeological sites. Some of these are as good as Stonehenge without all the crowds and New Age crap. I almost forgot to mention starting off the trip by meeting Darwin in the Peak District and climbing on gritstone.

Edited to fix several typos. I left the whisky misspelling, though.



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Tony
About the Author
Tony is a trad climber from Pt. Richmond, CA.

Comments
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
  Nov 16, 2011 - 09:38pm PT
SOOOO Feckin' Cool!!!

Thanks Tony for the great TR.

That thing has been on my bucket list since I was a kid.


I hope it doesn't fall over before I do.....
Dos XX

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
  Nov 16, 2011 - 09:41pm PT
Ohhhhh.... This post is like CANDY. I'll be coming back again, guaranteed.
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
  Nov 16, 2011 - 09:41pm PT
Good stuff!
bergbryce

climber
East Bay, CA
  Nov 16, 2011 - 09:42pm PT
This is pure gold. What a unique route!
Thank you :-)
mctwisted

Trad climber
e.p.
  Nov 16, 2011 - 10:12pm PT
very cool t.r., thanks so much for sharing!
tom woods

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
  Nov 16, 2011 - 10:12pm PT
Very cool, thank you for showing us something new/old.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
Wilds of New Mexico
  Nov 16, 2011 - 10:18pm PT
Super cool. I've wanted to climb that stack for a long time. Nice work!
martygarrison

Trad climber
Washington DC
  Nov 16, 2011 - 10:22pm PT
some of the best pics I have ever seen of the hoy. this climb always had an attraction to me as I remember reading first accent article somewhere as a teenager.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
  Nov 16, 2011 - 10:45pm PT
Killer!
Nice calm, glassy day too.

I have friends that have climbed the Old Man, including one of the first ascentionists.

Thanks for posting.
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Author's Reply  Nov 16, 2011 - 10:50pm PT
drljefe,

Pray tell, who? FA of this route or one of the newer, harder ones.
Yes, we lucked out on the weather. There were a few brief squalls, but not enough to soak the rock. This was the best day of our 4-day stay.
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
  Nov 16, 2011 - 10:51pm PT
What beautiful looking rock, thanks for posting.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
  Nov 16, 2011 - 10:56pm PT
Rusty


Edit: did you know he held the record for Kenya/Kilmanjaro?
Dirka

Trad climber
Hustle City
  Nov 16, 2011 - 10:59pm PT
TFPU!
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Author's Reply  Nov 16, 2011 - 11:04pm PT
drljefe,

I didn't, but I'm not surprised. He certainly was a prominent figure in Africa climbing. I understand he built a hut high up on Mt. Kenya. He has really gotten around. He seems to still be going strong according to this ST thread http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=510565&tn=0
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
  Nov 16, 2011 - 11:04pm PT
Way Cool! And no Fulmar barf....Nice job dude!
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
  Nov 16, 2011 - 11:05pm PT
That looks like a cool route.
WBraun

climber
  Nov 16, 2011 - 11:17pm PT
I did this pile of sh'it with Kauk.

What's so cool about?

It's a total pile that never fell over yet should fall back into the ocean from where it belongs ......
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
  Nov 16, 2011 - 11:34pm PT
Nice report!

But you Merricans need to know that there is no "e" in Scotch whisky.
Slater

Trad climber
Central Coast
  Nov 16, 2011 - 11:45pm PT
Way to get on it boys!
Where's Crimpergirl?
Nice mix of climbing and birding.
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Author's Reply  Nov 16, 2011 - 11:59pm PT
Pete,

I should know that, but I succumbed to the ST spell check.
Try it.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
  Nov 17, 2011 - 12:11am PT
Come'on Werner, take your nice pill. That's what Matt would have done. Not that you're wrong, but sh#t it was a great TR (more on that later), and I would love to have done it. He even "referenced" you.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
  Nov 17, 2011 - 12:19am PT
Nice!
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
  Nov 17, 2011 - 12:42am PT
Awesome..
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
  Nov 17, 2011 - 01:09am PT
Chossalicious! Didjya get puked on by a shag? (Better than getting
shagged by a puke)
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
  Nov 17, 2011 - 01:44am PT
outstanding!!
schwortz

Social climber
"close to everything = not at anything", ca
  Nov 17, 2011 - 03:38am PT
thanks. the old man has been on the list since i saw it in bonnington's coffee table book years ago....
neversummer

climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
  Nov 17, 2011 - 11:08am PT
Choss or not that is awesome....
Zander

climber
  Nov 17, 2011 - 11:15am PT
Great trip report Tony!
Woo Hoo!
Zander
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
  Nov 17, 2011 - 11:26am PT
I've always wondered did the Spanish Armada name it when they sailed by?
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
  Nov 17, 2011 - 01:05pm PT
Great TR! I've only seen it from the sea and it's compelling. Hi to Yvonne
Fred
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Author's Reply  Nov 17, 2011 - 01:53pm PT
Thanks Fred. Did you see it on your around-the-world sailing adventure? Hi to Sarah.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
  Nov 17, 2011 - 01:44pm PT
Great TR, Tony! I remember watching that BBC broadcast on ABC's Wide World of Sports a few months after I started climbing in the late 1960's. It's wonderful to see a contemporary ascent.

Thanks again.

John
Haggis

Trad climber
Scotland
  Nov 17, 2011 - 02:30pm PT
such a fun route, we did it in 2006 as well but our weather wasn't great for the old photography.

Super report and nice images. the wooden wedge is now gone :(
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Author's Reply  Nov 17, 2011 - 02:38pm PT
Haggis,
Sorry to hear the wedge is gone. That's a bit like losing the Rotten Log on the Royal Arches Route, except that a replica can be added. I thought the wood looked unlikely to have been there for 40 years, so it might have been replaced before.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
  Nov 17, 2011 - 08:18pm PT


Super trip report Tony. Nice writing! I loved seeing pictures of the wide part of the climb and tried to remember how Kauk did it in that little movie. Did he make a lie back move? It looks like one would have to switch sides half way though. Actually the climb looked less chossy than I was expecting, although the rock that almost hit you makes me think that might not be accurate.

The photo of Y is just too cute. Does she know she's one of the new stars of Supertopo?


I have one criticism that almost ruined the report for me: you should have had more bird photos! Oh and you didn't mention British ales. ;-)


Darwin
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Author's Reply  Nov 19, 2011 - 04:44pm PT
Darwin,

Much of the formation is pretty chossy, especially the first pitch. Pitches 3 and 4 weren't that loose, but were mossy and sandy. The steeper crux and and summit pitches, however, were quite solid with good pro and excellent climbing. The moves up to the crux crack after the traverse on the second pitch were wildly exposed as you can see in the 8th photo. I can't remember much about how I tried the crux, but I seem to remember that when I was rapping, I realized I should have been turned so that I could have take better advantage of some edges right of the wide section.

Sorry about the lack of ales, but we were in Scotland and the drink of choice was whisky.

Here is one more bird photo for you:
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
  Nov 19, 2011 - 05:28pm PT
Nicely done! A little choss and moss can be to a climb what horseradish sauce is to roast beef.
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Author's Reply  Nov 19, 2011 - 07:55pm PT
Jim,

Very nicely put. I'll have to remember that. How about it, Werner?
Todd Eastman

Social climber
Putney, VT
  Nov 19, 2011 - 08:23pm PT
I think Robbins was part of the BBC TV production.
WBraun

climber
  Nov 20, 2011 - 12:31am PT
Tony

On the boat ride to the Prison Island that holds the Old Man Hoy I couldn't help notice the lack of trees in the country there.

The local guys said we cut em all down and made golf courses.

Now that's stupid because you can't eat golf balls.

They should have planted some nice pious trees.

Trees that provide food for mankind. Fruit and nuts.

Then I look at that old man Hoy sitting out there trying to keep the ocean at bay with birds sh'itin all over him.

Poor bastards karma is all fuked up.

He could instead have been a farmer and grown some nice foodstuff.

And now!!! I had to go climb up all over him half way around the world ....
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
  Nov 20, 2011 - 12:54am PT
We climb sh*t. That is what we do. Sometimes it is dicey snow and ice, some times it is perfect granite. It can be beautiful mud temples in the desert, or grainy choss piles with bird crap and vomit. It's all good. Get out there and love it....
Mighty Hiker

climber
Outside the Asylum
  Nov 20, 2011 - 01:44am PT
Well, that was quite delightful - thanks!

For those interested in the obscurities of geography and history - few besides me, that is - Orkney is the first archipelago north of Scotland. It isn't called "The Orkneys" any more than the Sierra are called the Sierras, for much the same reason. The largest island, off which the Old Man lies, is Mainland. (It's the largest island in Orkney.)

A main industry there for millennia has been sheep rearing, hence a shortage of trees for Werner.

Orkney was Norse from the 8th century through 1472 CE, when it was given to Scotland as security for the dowry of a Danish princess - by then, Norway and Denmark were under the same king. The cheapo Danes never paid the dowry, so the islands became part of Scotland, and eventually of Great Britain. Most place names are Norse, and until the 19th century the Orcadians spoke Norn, which was a dialect of Old Norse.

Hoy mostly likely just means "high". The equivalent Norwegian word is Høy. The second part of Orkney - "ey" - may be from the Norse word for island - "øy".
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
  Nov 20, 2011 - 03:23am PT
Wonderful adventure.

I climbed it with Paul Pritchard sometime in the late 90's. It was a lifelong dream. What a blast.

Funny, he and I just went climbing today!



I feared the fulmars, but on top that day were the most beautiful puffins dancing in the wind.

mooser

Trad climber
seattle
  Nov 20, 2011 - 09:13am PT
That stack has always fueled my imagination as well. Thanks for a great TR--both the photos and the write-up!
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
  Nov 20, 2011 - 09:34am PT
Really enjoyed that! I would love to climb in Scotland someday.

Jefe-you should cajole RB to get on ST and tell some stories.

Tony-That's "Cubby" Cuthbertson, isn't it? Mike G. and I met him at Snell Field, Chamonix in 1976. Small climbing world.



Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Author's Reply  Nov 21, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
Thanks all for your comments. This has been a fun diversion during my convalescence. Well, actually yesterday I took the new hip for a couple mile spin over to our nearby park to look at birds, of course.

RickA: No, Smiler is a different guy. Believe it or not, there are two Scottish climbers/guides named David Cuthbertson. Smiler is my age, 63, and actually is originally from the English Midlands. He spent some time in Wales at Llanberis before moving to Scotland. In fact, he was delighted to find out I had thedogfather DVD, since he was in the pub during the scene with Henry Barber. His 1st wife appeared in the background to the delight of the daughters. Cubby is the other and is a bit younger, I think. He is responsible for many of the hardest Scottish FAs of the '70s and '80s.

Edit: Smiler also spent about a year working for Chouinard Equipment in the '70s, I think.

Deuce: Thanks for the photos. It looks from Paul's pose on the summit that it was a bit colder when you did the climb. Oh, do you mean the big superhero on the left ;)

Mighty Hiker: Thanks for the contribution. I think many are interested. The Orcadians definitely are quite emphatic that it's the Orkney Islands, not the Orkneys! Their is huge Norse influence there and even more in the Shetland Islands.

Werner: Yes it's a shame about the trees. However, there are no golf courses on Hoy or most of the Orkney and Shetland Islands. We have a different take on the birds. The sea stacks and cliffs are the nurseries of seabirds such as the wonderful Fulmar. I was delighted that I didn't prompt one of them to eject its nutrient-rich stomach contents. The rest of their lives are at sea and it is an awesome site to watch them flying over the water in even the wildest conditions.

By the way, has anyone found a video link to the BBC program from 1967? I did some searching and found it in the BBC catalog, but it was said to be unavailable there. There was a short clip at the beginning of the Wide World of Sports segment of the Dogfather DVD, where they seemed to say that had been a WWoS show.

Edit: Yes, it would be great to get Rusty Baillie added to the illustrious list of ST contributors. He must have some amazing stories.


Powder

Trad climber
the Box
  Dec 13, 2011 - 02:43am PT
Nice TR. What a climb with fantastic view!!!
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
  Dec 13, 2011 - 02:58am PT
++ would love to do this climb, before it falls into the ocean...
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
  Dec 13, 2011 - 03:11am PT
That thing is friggin' awesome. Great report, and bird pics too!!!
Tony

Trad climber
Pt. Richmond, CA
Author's Reply  Dec 14, 2011 - 08:47pm PT
Munge,

It's right up your alley ;). Especially pitches 1 and 4.
Dave Davis

Social climber
Seattle, WA
  Dec 20, 2011 - 07:42pm PT
Great t.r.I remember the climb being aired on Wide World of Sports sometime back in the 60's. You better watch what you say about the Danes Anders. At least we never ate lutefisk.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
  Oct 19, 2012 - 08:13pm PT
^^^Good TR on the greatest climbing adventure in the UK.^^^
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Enjoy Hoy.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
  Jul 4, 2016 - 08:27pm PT
hey there say, tony... WOW!!!
I MISSED this... just read up on OLD MAN of HOY...

and was GOING to ask about it here, and wow:


here, you HAD a trip report...

great stuff....

here is a bump, of course... and i will add this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_Hoy


thanks so very much! for sharing this...


EDIT:

The stack was first climbed by mountaineers Chris Bonington, Rusty Baillie and Tom Patey in 1966.



(I WAS just learning about scottish climbers, and saw this OLD MAN OF HOY) ...
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
  Jul 4, 2016 - 10:26pm PT
Cool formation and a nice TR. this may be the only reason I'd suffer bangers and mash, post-menopausal colonial culture, etc
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