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Jingy
Social climber
Nowhere
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Feb 23, 2010 - 10:43pm PT
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First fatal flaw - I'm gonna get back to you when I'm more organized... When will this happen?
"Has anybody noticed that all the organized protests against anything American are supported by the same old groups?" - (Where are the organized protests that are against anything American taking place? If they are happenign in your living room, please provide video, you may be able to make some money off that.)
"Amnesty Int'l (side note - (Reputable organization that has brought about much good, and your right were not taken away in the process)
World Workers Party (prolly nazi's) - (you're prolly an idiot if you don't know WTF an organization is before you call them "prolly Nazi's"..)
ANSWER (overt Marxists) (show me how you came to this conclusion)
ACLU (American civil liberties? When did they support border patrol agents?) - (Have any border control agents banded together to join a union, or are they just ok with their government salaries, across the board........ Get a clue.. blue)
La Raza (for those that don't speaka spanish..that means "the race", as in brown supremacy...who's the racist?) - (Bluetring is the racist. You should have just left this one with La Raza, and let the rest of us lok it up ourselves, and come to our own conclusions on their merits... But your a reactionary, so.. I understand the limitations you may feel)
AZTLAN ( these idiots clearly state they want to re-conquer the SW United States.) - (what else do they say? I know you to pick and choose you inflammations, seem to focus mainly on hemorrhoid regions, but.. I digress)
MECHA...just google it (thanks, but no thanks... if you have, I'm pretty sure their policies are not in line with your corporate rule/repuglilkunt way of thinking)
EDIT: CODE PINK should be on the list too." - Not sure what this is all about, couldn't get past a jackass voicing his disapproval of anything that relates to helping people instead of corporations....
Wow.. I just got done reading into the mind of bluerig.. and it still ain't pertty....
wholey-shite... this was a total waste of time...
thanks bluerangue.. I'm going back to my life.. Hope to revisit once your more organized.
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dktem
Trad climber
Temecula
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Feb 23, 2010 - 10:43pm PT
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Rent the movie "Duck Soup" and tell me the Marxists aren't great. You bet your life!
LOL!
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Feb 23, 2010 - 10:44pm PT
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I do not think Bluering might not like those chicks in red skirts but I sure he is into this stuff. Gud Merkin Fun!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9RYBcWljiA
PS. Does your your name have anything to do with a Germ Burn?
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Srbphoto
Trad climber
Kennewick wa
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Feb 23, 2010 - 10:51pm PT
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Here is good definition of what you should be afraid of, the right wing Republican Fascist agenda, so well said by Vice Pres Wallace
" If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. ... They are patriotic in time of war because it is to their interest to be so, but in time of peace they follow power and the dollar wherever they may lead."
And Democrats in Congress don't do the same thing?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Feb 23, 2010 - 10:54pm PT
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what exactly did Goldman Sachs do?
wasn't it an investment house, who basically took peoples money, lent to and collected interest on it... while charging a fee for the service, both a flat fee and a percentage.... but the original capital was not Goldman Sach's but their customers'
Now having leveraged the investments, that is, taken on the promise of return far in excess of the available funds, once the investment commitments came due they didn't have enough capital to cover.
That means they risked all of their customers' capital, and a lot of their own. Not only does the company Goldman Sachs suffer, but all of their customers too. What should the position of the government be? Let it all collapse?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Feb 23, 2010 - 10:56pm PT
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I actually think bluering was trolling...
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Srbphoto
Trad climber
Kennewick wa
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Feb 23, 2010 - 10:58pm PT
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The dictionary definition of fascism is as follows:
"A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
Funny my Webster's dictionary says the same thing, minus the "extreme right"
If the government has control of the means of production (through ownership or through regulation) it is Socialism. I will let you argue which wing the bird uses to fly.
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Srbphoto
Trad climber
Kennewick wa
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Feb 23, 2010 - 11:02pm PT
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That means they risked all of their customers' capital, and a lot of their own. Not only does the company Goldman Sachs suffer, but all of their customers too. What should the position of the government be? Let it all collapse?
The government let the company I worked for collapse. Over 1600 people out of work. Maybe a small percentage compared to GS but sometimes the small tragedies are just as bad.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Feb 23, 2010 - 11:05pm PT
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but what should the gov't do? that's a question... not a rhetorical one...
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Srbphoto
Trad climber
Kennewick wa
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Feb 23, 2010 - 11:16pm PT
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Dr F - If the Dems do the same thing as the Repubs, isn't that the same thing no matter what label you decide to put on it. If it quacks like a duck...say the magic word.
Calling me a dope may appease your ego but it doesn't further your cause.
Ed - let them go. Their assets will be bought, some positions absorbed by someone else, people out of work. Investments carry risk. One risk is that you can lose everything.
If the Feds are going to help GS, then they should help everyone. Size shouldn't matter.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 23, 2010 - 11:38pm PT
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What about the owner of a small store? Isn't that a capitalist?
No.
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Srbphoto
Trad climber
Kennewick wa
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Feb 23, 2010 - 11:39pm PT
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What about the owner of a small store? Isn't that a capitalist?
No.
What are they?
What's your definition of a capitalist?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Feb 23, 2010 - 11:40pm PT
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Ah yes, bluetard, the amerikan patriot (KNOTT), who loves his country
but won't fight for it.
Why don't you just join juan in his cave.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2010 - 11:40pm PT
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What should the position of the government be? Let it all collapse?
Yep! Why not? How much did we spend to prevent "the collapse". We (He) caused it. And did we fix anything?
EDIT:
Ah yes, bluetard, the amerikan patriot (KNOTT), who loves his country
but won't fight for it.
So If I enlist in some service my points have more validity or credibility? Are you serious with that?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Feb 23, 2010 - 11:46pm PT
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Here's your hero dr-f
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Feb 23, 2010 - 11:51pm PT
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Enough Bluering!
I'm calling in the man-call it what you like, just answer your friggin doorbell.
Might be a good idea to have a stash of dog biscuits handy.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2010 - 11:55pm PT
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guido, if that dude's a commie he'll prolly go down fast and hard. If he's conservative he'll prolly just kill ya by squarshing ya'....
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Feb 24, 2010 - 12:04am PT
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Better get a quick lesson in Maori Bluering. Our friend, as well as many others, just doesn't understand your lingo.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 12:06am PT
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fair enough, Guido...Have fun wherever you are!
here's this list again...
I'll re-post the list;
From the teaching of the Frankfurt School of the New Left...
To further the advance of their ‘quiet’ cultural revolution - but giving us no ideas about their plans for the future - the School recommended (among other things):
1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking
7. Emptying of churches
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family
One of the main ideas of the Frankfurt School was to exploit Freud’s idea of ‘pansexualism’ - the search for pleasure, the exploitation of the differences between the sexes, the overthrowing of traditional relationships between men and women. To further their aims they would:
• attack the authority of the father, deny the specific roles of father and mother, and wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
• abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
• abolish all forms of male dominance - hence the presence of women in the armed forces
• declare women to be an ‘oppressed class’ and men as ‘oppressors’
Munzenberg summed up the Frankfurt School’s long-term operation thus: ‘We will make the West so corrupt that it stinks.'
The School believed there were two types of revolution: (a) political and (b) cultural. Cultural revolution demolishes from within. ‘Modern forms of subjection are marked by mildness’. They saw it as a long-term project and kept their sights clearly focused on the family, education, media, sex and popular culture.
Ughhh, it may be too late....
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 24, 2010 - 12:10am PT
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So bluering, just because some krackpot krauts in their academic dreamworld are coming up with this drivel, that means that anyone's paying attention?
Anyway, I thought my kleptocracy joke was funny, even if none of you did. I thought it might lead to a discussion about all governments being kleptocratic, and the importance of checks and balances.
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