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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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You mean, like, Italy, Spain, France, or Greece? When the best of those has one out of eight people not working (the others are closer to one out of four) that rather calls into question yer use of 'works', doesn't it?
Cherry pick your data much? Hahahaha. Why not include the UK with unemployment 0f 4.8% or Germany with unemployment of 3.9%. Hysterical.
Curt
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Wasn't Hitler a Socialist?
No.
Curt
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Than what, denying that those countries don't have a yuge unemployment problem?
Yes, viewed from Poland they look enticing, but viewed through an economist's lens they
have major problems.
Curt, comparing the economies of Germany and England to those others isn't politically correct. Remember, we're not sposed to make fun of the handicapped, right?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Are youse guys actually taking this thread as something serious?
Ricky posted:
I f*#king love the Communists (OT) thread.
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan, Former USSR
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Majority of climbers are natural-born socialist or intellectually Communists. They just hide it
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Majority of climbers are natural-born socialist or intellectually Communists. They just hide it
The majority of climbers are natural born anarchists or have Peter Pan syndrome.
Nobody I know seems to take much effort to hide it.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Hitler's Germany was a Nationalist Socialist Country, which had nothing to do with real socialism, it was a far right wing Nationalist Fascist Administration
Modern Day Communism is pure Socialism of all aspects of Government led by a Right Wing Authoritarian Despot, ie. Stalin, Mao, North Korea, Venezuela
The Leaders have all power and rake in the riches at the expense of the poor people that work for low wages and in poor conditions
Modern Day Socialist Countries are Democratic Socialists, which have most aspects of the country under capitalism, and only the commons are socialized. Norway and most of Europe are this.
America is mostly a Democratic Socialist Country but with some of the commons privatized at our expense, like our health care system and college education costing too much for the average person to afford
Our military, police, public lands, and 1-12 education is socialized.
We would be smart to go back to having a socialized commons, but Republicans in Congress have kept us on the expensive private health care system while in collusion with the insurance company so the bribes will continue,
ditto for education
Hence, YOU Pay ~3 times the amount you would have to pay for socialized health care and get less care because of the Republicans
some may disagree
But, are Russia, 1940s Germany or China in the least bit liberal?
Hell No, they are right wing Hell Holes
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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I will never understand why Republicans don't like the ACLU.
They exist to enforce the Bill of Rights.
My best guess is that the ACLU protects us from things like putting a giant statue of the Ten Commandments on the lawn of my State Capitol. That was going to happen until a group of Wiccans announced that they were going to erect a giant witchcraft statue on the State Capitol Grounds. That shut them up.
They also don't like it when they defend the rights of minority groups.
The ACLU also defends some pretty right wing groups, when it comes to any infringement on their rights.
We need the ACLU. They defend people whose CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS are being infringed upon.
Communists? A group like the ACLU would be executed under a communist system. China doesn't like it when we bring up their civil rights problems. They don't care about individual rights.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Frontline did a great episode about socialized medicine in other countries. They showed the different methods, and the different results.
The episode is called "Sick Around The World" and you can watch it on their website or netflix. It is EXTREMELY revealing.
Care varies by country.
We know that Americans pay twice as much for health care than any other country on Earth. We also know that we do not have the best health care, either. That is a myth.
The problem is that health care is not a free market. You don't go around getting estimates every time your doctor recommends a test. A freaking CT costs almost 2 grand. I'm still paying off an ER visit from over a year ago, because it happened in Utah and my insurance company said that it was "out of network." Like I had a choice.
All I had was a sore back. They did a spinal CT, and other expensive tests. I ended up getting a ten dollar shot of Tordol, a muscle relaxer, and was discharged a few hours later. The entire thing cost almost 6000 dollars.
I broke a leg in 1986 and paid 250 bucks for it.
Something is deeply wrong with our healthcare costs, and it isn't malpractice claims.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Ever notice how most of the groups supporting trump are white supremicist wack jobs???? Nothing like some KKK love to make you feel appreciated.......
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Ever notice how much they love Putin?
They just love far right wing authoritarians,
and they hate democracy where there is majority rule.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Ever notice how much they love Putin?
Not just Putin.
The bombast in chief "would be honored" to meet Kim Jong Un and thought his father was a great man.
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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When Brezjnev finally died, he came to the afterlife and met the last Tsar, Nicholas II. Nicholas was of course curious about developments in Mother Russia, and asked Leonid about it:
“Tell me, comrade, is the Russian fleet still the scourge of the seas?”
“It is more powerful than you could even have imagined, comrade Nicholas, battleships and aircraft carriers and rockets and all.”
“Good, good—and the secret police, do they still have the people under control?”
“We have turned into an efficient machine, and we have control measures such as you might have dreamt of! There is no escaping them now!”
“Very well, all very well—and tell me—the vodka, is that still as strong, is it still 38%?”
“No, comrade Nikolay, it is now at 40%!”
<silence>
“Tell me, comrade Leonid, was it really necessary to implement Communism in our beloved Mother Russia for only 2%?”
Some data here RE USSR/Russia GDP growth during the last ~ 100 years. It would be interesting to see these plots updated from 2010-present
https://nintil.com/2016/03/26/the-soviet-union-gdp-growth/
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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TT, funny story!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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I'm strictly a social Communist part of the time to impress and a strict Communist when it suits me.
F*#k the other guys when the chips are down.
Or does that make me a capitalist?
Question #2: Is this irony?
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Reilly, what does DMT's poster say? (nice find by the way)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Z, it says "when yer done working, it's time to relax (in a 'cultured' way)!"
It's clearly a modern play on the old posters extolling the workers to work
their asses off for the Fatherland.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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It is much more fulfilling to work your ass off for some capitalist fat cat, that's true!
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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I love to commune with nature, and commune with my fellow humans. Does that make me a communist?
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan, Former USSR
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As part of requirement (not in the book) a true Communist needs to understand nature . nature is used during plan "B" and been a climber makes the transition in to plan "B" be little easier.
As I said, most of you are Communist and no wonder you don't get alone with the man.
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