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dirtbag
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Jul 11, 2014 - 09:40am PT
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This is one of the all time funniest threads.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jul 11, 2014 - 10:47am PT
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Gary, that's an awesome passage, and I can appreciate it in a number of areas, as can we all.
BUT, I bet 10,000 shekels that it was NOT penned by Bundy himself. That was written by some admiring anti-govt sub-man who saw the opportunity to get his text out on the nose of the current anti-govt media darling.
There is no way Cliven can string that much together......
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Jul 11, 2014 - 05:48pm PT
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bluering - have you gone off your meds?
I would like to make it clear that many of my friends and many of my most admired role models hail from the U.S. Unfortunately, they appear to be outnumbered by pathetic, psychotic mouth breathers like you. It's difficult to find the energy to attempt to awaken whatever atrophied brain cells that may still cling to life in your skull, but I may as well try.
I'm proud of the factual reality of my beliefs - many of which could be termed "lefty", but I generally take moral guidance from the guy who gave us the Sermon of the Mount. You may have heard of this commie bastard - he kept spouting evil crap like: "blessed are the peacemakers", "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and so on. No need to get upset about this guy, because he was tortured to death, and probably by your ancestors.
Oh, yeah - "lefties" have less in common than you (and whoever is warped enough to tolerate your presence) have with Hitler. How dare you post this kind of crap - even if you are permanently drunk? I have ancestors who have been murdered by communists, and I would have no problem with sticking Stalin & his cronies high on any list of mass murderers. Come to think of it, both Henry Ford & Nelson Rockefeller had no problem doing business with Stalin - or Hitler, for that matter. I guess they were commies as well.
Furthermore, during the '30s, thousands of U.S. social democrats (yes - there is a difference, you imbecile) migrated to the U.S.S.R. to participate in Stalin's "utopia". To my knowledge, nearly every single one of these idealists were murdered by Stalin's death machine. Also, uncounted numbers of anti-nazi freedom fighters who fought for democracy in Spain were murdered by Stalin's commissars. Yeah, you total arsehole - all lefties are the same.
I've been through this movie before, but if you feel that it may help raise your twisted soul from the festering septic tank it inhabits, I'd be happy to provide you with a sadly incomplete list of the war criminals that end up elected to office in the U.S. For starters, in any civilized nation, both Bushes and Donald Rumsfeld would be serving life sentences for crimes against humanity, not to mention for the direct participation or complicity in the mass murder of innocents.
Oh, yeah facts are facts. That means that they are verifiable by reasonable people with access to reputable sources. This is true - just ask anyone who isn't a wannabe mass murderer like yourself.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2014 - 05:50pm PT
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bluering - have you gone off your meds?
I would like to make it clear that many of my friends and many of my most admired role models hail from the U.S. Unfortunately, they appear to be outnumbered by pathetic, psychotic mouth breathers like you. It's difficult to find the energy to attempt to awaken whatever atrophied brain cells that may still cling to life in your skull, but I may as well try.
I'm proud of the factual reality of my beliefs - many of which could be termed "lefty", but I generally take moral guidance from the guy who gave us the Sermon of the Mount. You may have heard of this commie bastard - he kept spouting evil crap like: "blessed are the peacemakers", "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and so on. No need to get upset about this guy, because he was tortured to death, and probably by your ancestors.
Oh, yeah - "lefties" have less in common than you (and whoever is warped enough to tolerate your presence) have with Hitler. How dare you post this kind of crap - even if you are permanently drunk? I have ancestors who have been murdered by communists, and I would have no problem with sticking Stalin & his cronies high on any list of mass murderers. Come to think of it, both Henry Ford & Nelson Rockefeller had no problem doing business with Stalin - or Hitler, for that matter. I guess they were commies as well.
Furthermore, during the '30s, thousands of U.S. social democrats (yes - there is a difference, you imbecile) migrated to the U.S.S.R. to participate in Stalin's "utopia". To my knowledge, nearly every single one of these idealists were murdered by Stalin's death machine. Also, uncounted numbers of anti-nazi freedom fighters who fought for democracy in Spain were murdered by Stalin's commissars. Yeah, you total arsehole - all lefties are the same.
I've been through this movie before, but if you feel that it may help raise your twisted soul from the festering septic tank it inhabits, I'd be happy to provide you with a sadly incomplete list of the war criminals that end up elected to office in the U.S. For starters, in any civilized nation, both Bushes and Donald Rumsfeld would be serving life sentences for crimes against humanity, not to mention for the direct participation or complicity in the mass murder of innocents.
Oh, yeah facts are facts. That means that they are verifiable by reasonable people with access to reputable sources. This is true - just ask anyone who isn't a wannabe mass murderer like yourself.
So you don't like commies, but I'm an as#@&%e for pointing out groups that tow the line of the Communist Manifesto? Doesn't that make you a liar? Hypocrite?
Have you ever read the Manifesto and the Venona Papers?
And yes, please illustrate the "war crimes" committed by Bush and Rumsfeld.
Has Obama committed any?
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jul 14, 2014 - 06:21pm PT
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blueyI knew it. Cinco de Mayo and La Raza are Communist babies. Guess where they originted?
Leon Trotsky, when he moved to Mexico. More like exiled to Mexico.
Cinco de Mayo (May Day) is a Leon Trotsky tribute to the birthday of Karl Marx. Has little to do with the battle against the Frenchies. Where did you get that nonsense?
Try good ole Communist gold town Columbia, CA
According to a paper published by the UCLA Center for the Study of Latino Health and Culture about the origin of the observance of Cinco de Mayo in the United States, the modern American focus on that day first started in California in the 1860s in response to the resistance to French rule in Mexico. "Far up in the gold country town of Columbia (now Columbia State Park) Mexican miners were so overjoyed at the news that they spontaneously fired off rifles shots and fireworks, sang patriotic songs and made impromptu speeches."[32] A 2007 UCLA Newsroom article notes that "The holiday, which has been celebrated in California continuously since 1863, is virtually ignored in Mexico."[32] TIME magazine reports that "Cinco de Mayo started to come into vogue in 1940s America during the rise of the Chicano movement." Long before Trotsky was a glint in his daddy's eye.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jul 14, 2014 - 06:31pm PT
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And in Mexico
On 9 May 1862, President Juárez declared that the anniversary of the Battle of Puebla would be a national holiday regarded as "Battle of Puebla Day" or "Battle of Cinco de Mayo". bluey, you are susceptible to the most inane conspiracy theories out there.
Early on in this thread, a couple of years ago you lauded Cleon Skausen.
The entire mainstream Republican Party disavowed him. He was a certifiable "Commie in every schoolroom and under every bush" whacko.
In 1962 the FBI was digging under every rock looking for real Soviet controlled Communists.
Yet
A 1962 FBI memo described Skousen as affiliating with an "extreme right-wing" group which was promoting "anticommunism for obvious financial purposes".[3] Skousen authored a pamphlet titled The Communist Attack on the John Birch Society, characterizing criticism of the Society as incipient communism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleon_Skousen
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jul 14, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
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the illegal war in iraq could be considered a war crime perpetuated by bush/cheyney. to deny this would be a f*#king lie
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 14, 2014 - 06:37pm PT
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Trotsky kept a pretty low profile in Mexico, but not low enough, obviously. I am curious how
Bluey came up with that but I am not tempted to consult my copy of Leon's autobiography.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2014 - 06:38pm PT
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HT, do you really think that it's a coincidence that the 5th of May is also Karl Marx's birthday? May Day?
If it's such an awesome Mexican day, why do thy not celebrate it?
Read the Venona Papers and the Commie Manifesto. This is their plan, along with Mexican rights groups.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 14, 2014 - 06:49pm PT
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Bluester wrote:
Have you ever read the Manifesto...
Have you? I've got a copy around here someplace, I could mail it to you.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jul 14, 2014 - 07:01pm PT
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bluey
let's get some facts straight
Marx joined the International Workingmen's Association in 1864.
It's highly unlikely any California miner/logger etc had heard of Marx in 1863. Possibly a few effete intellectual college professors.
Leon Trotsky was born in 1879.
so please tell me the meaning of this claim: is a Leon Trotsky tribute to the birthday of Karl Marx
Presumably you already know Trotsky was no Communist.
After leading a failed struggle of the Left Opposition against the policies and rise of Joseph Stalin in the 1920s and the increasing role of bureaucracy in the Soviet Union, Trotsky was successively removed from power in 1927, expelled from the Communist Party, and finally deported from the Soviet Union in 1929. As the head of the Fourth International, Trotsky continued in exile in Mexico to oppose the Stalinist bureaucracy in the Soviet Union. And murdered by an undercover NKVD agent in 1940.
The Real Communists saw him as a mortal enemy.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jul 14, 2014 - 07:01pm PT
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Growing up in the Midwest we celebrated May Day on May 1. Great fun sharing little bags of candy with friends and weaving/ braiding ribbons on the May Pole.
Quite a distinct holiday from Cinco de Mayo (May five obviously) which we celebrated heavily living in Texas.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 14, 2014 - 07:06pm PT
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Quite a distinct holiday from Cinco de Mayo (May five obviously) which we celebrated heavily.
Obvious to you, not so obvious to the bluester.
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John M
climber
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Jul 14, 2014 - 07:24pm PT
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its not a coincidence that 4/20 is pot celebration day and
HITLERS BIRTHDAY..
bluey.. are you a closet pot smoking Nazi ???????
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2014 - 08:04pm PT
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bluey
let's get some facts straight
Marx joined the International Workingmen's Association in 1864.
It's highly unlikely any California miner/logger etc had heard of Marx in 1863. Possibly a few effete intellectual college professors.
Leon Trotsky was born in 1879.
so please tell me the meaning of this claim:
Commie apologist, huh?
Trotsky was a commie, but the Proletariet didn't like his rantings. They whacked him. He, like most commies, went "the wrong way".
Che, Castro, Mao, et al., all had their own take that led to the same results.
Thatcher and Reagan did more for humanity than any f*#king commie, despite their preachings and platitudes.
Keep sucking the Commie teet, and see where that gets you. They claim to be for the middle-man, while they tear him down.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 14, 2014 - 08:14pm PT
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HT, I would respectfully submit that Trotsky was the remaining true believer who did not fit
into Stalin's cult of personality. Remember, Lenin trusted Trotsky but was deeply suspicious
of Stalin, not to mention quite dismissive of his intellect, something nobody ever doubted
about Trotsky.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2014 - 08:14pm PT
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See hightraverse, complete waste of time.
DMT
As I said above, he was murdered by the Commies he used to associate with. He went rogue.
And if it's a "complete waste of time", why do you keep posting on this?
Who killed Trotsky, and why?
Also, do you deny that Commies have infiltrated our political system?
EDIT:HT, I would respectfully submit that Trotsky was the remaining true believer who did not fit
into Stalin's cult of personality. Remember, Lenin trusted Trotsky but was deeply suspicious
of Stalin, not to mention quite dismissive of his intellect, something nobody ever doubted
about Trotsky.
Yep.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 14, 2014 - 08:16pm PT
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Also, do you deny that Commies have infiltrated our political system?
The Koch brothers are communist? Who knew.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2014 - 08:18pm PT
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No more than Bill Gates, Murdoch, George Soros, or others.....
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 14, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
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Also, do you deny that Commies have infiltrated our political system?
It's all encompassing, bluering. It's worse than even you imagine. You know about fluoridation? Fluoridating water? Do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, bluering? Children's ice cream!...You know when fluoridation began?...1946. 1946, bluering. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works. I first became aware of it, bluering, during the physical act of love... Yes, a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred, bluering. Women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, bluering, but I do deny them my essence.
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