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ms55401
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minneapolis, mn
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Jul 15, 2014 - 09:56pm PT
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this thread started out with such promise
only to be a huge let-down for patriots all over the US of A
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jstan
climber
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Jul 15, 2014 - 10:11pm PT
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The start:
bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 7, 2008 - 01:53am PT
O.k., I'm gonna start this thread but I have a lot more to expose when I get better organized.
Has anybody noticed that all the organized protests against anything American are supported by the same old groups?
Amnesty Int'l
World Workers Party (prolly nazi's)
ANSWER (overt Marxists)
ACLU (American civil liberties? When did they support border patrol agents?)
La Raza (for those that don't speaka spanish..that means "the race", as in brown supremacy...who's the racist?)
AZTLAN ( these idiots clearly state they want to re-conquer the SW United States.)
MECHA...just google it
EDIT: CODE PINK should be on the list too.
I'd say I'm sorry for posting political crap...but I ain't. You people need to wake up.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jul 15, 2014 - 11:50pm PT
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2014 - 12:51am PT
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Assuming that you think that you're a Christian, I should inform you that the first commandment in the bible goes "thou shall not kill". I assume that GOD put it at the top of the list to remind even smirking ninnies like you that we only come through this way once, and that murdering people is just plain wrong.
Actually, the commandments says, "Thou shalt not MURDER". Meaning the taking of innocent life in cold blood. But yeah, murder is definitely bad. A sin.
Those WMDs were deactivated after Desert Storm, but for the sake of argument, let's give you that one. Now answer one for me: where do you think they got the chemicals to manufacture these WMDs in the first place? I should warn you, though, that this is a trick question.
Irrelevant. Possessing weapons is different than deploying them against an innocent population. At least in WWII we deployed in an act of self defense against the aggressor, Japan. We actually saved lives (probably) by dropping 2 nukes on the Japs. And we even warned them to stand down twice before deploying. The thought we were bluffing.
As for Saddam? He was a strategic balance to the mullah's in Iran after Jimmy Carter deposed the Shah. You have to understand Middle Eastern and Islamic despots. Sometimes they are needed, at least until their people take a step into the 20th century, or maybe even the 21st.
These people need dictators to keep the animals in their cages, so to speak. Just look at Egypt, Libya, Syria, and now Iraq...again. Without a forceful 'ruler', they animals go crazy and even start killing each other. In very savage manners.
We made a mistake in deposing Saddam. As we did with Mubabrak and Ghaddafi. And as we almost did with Assad.
I don't like these mother-f*#kers, but they're better than the alternatives. It'll be interesting to see how Asscrapistan plays out with Karzai....
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RyanD
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Squamish
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Jul 16, 2014 - 01:44am PT
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These people need dictators to keep the animals in their cages, so to speak. Just look at Egypt, Libya, Syria, and now Iraq...again. Without a forceful 'ruler', they animals go crazy and even start killing each other. In very savage manners.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 16, 2014 - 05:20am PT
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As for Saddam? He was a strategic balance to the mullah's in Iran after Jimmy Carter deposed the Shah.
Stop it, dude! You're killing me!
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 16, 2014 - 06:56am PT
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Where the hell do you get this stuff Bluey?
Probably from this idiot:
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 16, 2014 - 06:58am PT
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This is a very funny thread.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Jul 16, 2014 - 07:55am PT
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I think you need to update your fears, bluering. Communists are scarce nowadays.
But, the OP.... Amnesty International? If there's ever an organisation who works for human rights... they've saved many lives. Really, bluering? You just can't be serious.
Edit: Who's that, Dingus?
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 16, 2014 - 07:58am PT
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Obommie is a commie.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 16, 2014 - 08:00am PT
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Who's that, Dingus?
Michael Weiner aka Michael Savage. Right wing racist, and jingoist radio commentator.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Jul 16, 2014 - 08:11am PT
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Oh my. LOL.
There's not one communist in the Unitedstatian establishment. They're so utterly far from the ideas of communism it's a laughable thought. To accuse your president (I assume you mean him, even if you show no respect for the office) of being a communist rather shows nothing but ignorance of the ideology.
On the other hand, I gather "commie" has nothing to do with the original concept. It's a common mongering word, like "moron" or "dipshit" or "jerk". An expression for "I-don't-like-you-or-your-politics".
(Comment to dirtbag's post, not Gary. Thanks for the answer, Gary.)
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 16, 2014 - 08:17am PT
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Lollie you might be surprised how many people are totally convinced he is a card carrying Commie, including the op.
Yes, it's a silly notion, but combined with lingering racist attitudes, and politicians who are willing to exploit this, it begins to present problems.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 16, 2014 - 08:19am PT
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Still, a lot of this fear is funny to watch.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 16, 2014 - 08:21am PT
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Lollie, you are correct. Bluering, TGT, etc, know absolutely nothing about it. The left has been eliminated in this country through repression and propaganda that makes Goebbels and Pravda look like absolute amateurs. The USA is the only country in the world where the working class votes in the interest of the capitalist class. It's amazing.
BTW, dirtbag was being sarcastic.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 16, 2014 - 08:32am PT
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Gary, is it not possible that the left in this country has been eliminated by being hoisted by
their own petard? Certainly there was repression but if their song had any resonance there
would have been more people who would have joined the refrain.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Jul 16, 2014 - 09:39am PT
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dirtbag, by your second post I understood you were sarcastic. And, that fit better with what I believed. Was a bit surprised, but thought I must had gotten it wrong before. :-)
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 16, 2014 - 09:53am PT
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Gary, is it not possible that the left in this country has been eliminated by being hoisted by
their own petard? Certainly there was repression but if their song had any resonance there
would have been more people who would have joined the refrain.
Reilly, I don't think so. Lots of people were joining the refrain. Back in the '20s even though he was still imprisoned in the Atlanta federal penitentiary Eugene Debs polled 10% of the presidential vote. People were voting Socialists into congress, only to see congress refuse to seat them. The Sewer Socialists were quite popular in many parts of the country. They were not corrupt and actually took care of their cities. Frank Zeidler, an outlier, remained the Socialist mayor of Milwaukee even through the McCarthy era.
FDR saved capitalism in this country by adopting some of the more popular planks of the Socialist Party. Through that and harassment of the leadership of the left in, including not only imprisonment but outright murder, it fell into irrelevance. We're now so far to the right that people like Ron and bluering actually think Obama is a communist.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 16, 2014 - 10:14am PT
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